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2005\07\18@181112 by Peter van Hoof

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Did anyone mention the X-Cad 3d cad giveaway on http://x-cad.net ?

They give away a 3d cad package IF 100.000 PEOPLE SIGN UP BEFORE AUGUST 1
Right now the count is at 89550 with almost two weeks to go it should be
possible to reach the goal

Peter


2005\07\18@184928 by Josh

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Peter van Hoof wrote:

> Did anyone mention the X-Cad 3d cad giveaway on http://x-cad.net ?
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> They give away a 3d cad package IF 100.000 PEOPLE SIGN UP BEFORE AUGUST 1
> Right now the count is at 89550 with almost two weeks to go it should
> be possible to reach the goal
>
> Peter
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Is this legit?  I think it could be an elaborate scheme to harvest email
addresses.

2005\07\18@204207 by Dave King

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From all I've seen it is legit. Somehow related to some of or the same
guys who did
Rhino3D.

The number counter has at least changed from 55,000 a month ago to 89k

Dave

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2005\07\18@205741 by Peter van Hoof

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If you look at this link http://www.cadwire.net/commentary/?40521 there is an
article from Randal Newton who spoke with the ceo of the company involved.

Headers from the confirmation email some people received had Message-ID:
<258c01c5711b$67d364d0$spam_OUT140d000aTakeThisOuTspamAlibreHost.alibre.com> in it
Alibre is a reputable cad company.

Take it for what it's worth

Peter van Hoof

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2005\07\19@112146 by R. I. Nelson

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part 1 1548 bytes content-type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed (decoded 7bit)

In the last 15 minutes that I signed up and verified the counter went up
from 91,445 to 91,470.  this list probably added to that increase.
An interesting thing:  My son tried to register also from his email
address, same url, and as soon as he goes on the site it comes up with
the screen that says thanks for verifying.  it seems they are going to
only accept one per url.




Dave King wrote:

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fn:Robert I. Nelson
n:Nelson;Robert I.
org:RIN Designs
adr:;;P.O. BOX 373;RIPON;WI;54971;USA
email;internet:.....rindesignsKILLspamspam@spam@charter.net
tel;work:1-(920)-229-7152
tel;home:1-(920)-748-7443
note;quoted-printable:Custom design and building of small electro mechanical devices.=0D=0A=
       AUTOCAD work ver2002
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2005\07\19@125114 by Mark Jordan

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On 19 Jul 2005 at 10:21, R. I. Nelson wrote:

> In the last 15 minutes that I signed up and verified the counter went up
> from 91,445 to 91,470.  this list probably added to that increase.
> An interesting thing:  My son tried to register also from his email
> address, same url, and as soon as he goes on the site it comes up with
> the screen that says thanks for verifying.  it seems they are going to
> only accept one per url.
>

       I was told about another free 3D CAD:

       http://www.brlcad.org/  

       See some example 3D models from the Ronja project:
       
       http://ronja.twibright.com/3d/  

       Mark


2005\07\19@130614 by whacky-scientist.com>

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--- "R. I. Nelson" <rindesignsspamKILLspamcharter.net> wrote:

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> An interesting thing:  My son tried to register also
> from his email
> address, same url, and as soon as he goes on the
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Nope, the site uses cookies to do this. You can delete
your cookies or take a different path use
http://1.x-cad.net then http://2.x-cad.net etc ,
anything different before the x-cad generates a fresh
cookie.

Peter van Hoof

2005\07\19@140037 by Bob J

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If x-cad.net is really Alibre, their product appears to compare very
favorably with SolidWorks, even better in some respects.  It would
certainly create some marketing buzz around their product if the
giveaway turns out to be from them.  But they do have seem to have a
good product, and I have had no trouble adapting to it being a
SolidWorks user.

Regards,
Bob

On 7/18/05, Peter van Hoof <.....peterKILLspamspam.....whacky-scientist.com> wrote:
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2005\07\20@183723 by whacky-scientist.com>

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X-CAD Unmasked!
Today Alibre announced that X-CAD is, in fact,
Alibre Design Xpress, a new addition to the Alibre
Design product family.

View the press release at
http://www.alibre.com/xpress/news/press-release.asp

The count today is 95735

Peter


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2005\07\20@224753 by Peter van Hoof

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Ok , so I was deceived this is a crippled adware infected piece of crap
software.
They are not exactly doing their company a favor with this

Peter


2005\07\21@000411 by Randy Glenn

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Where do you get the adware part? Why wouldn't it be something along
the lines of EAGLE Light?

On 7/20/05, Peter van Hoof <spamBeGonepeterspamBeGonespamwhacky-scientist.com> wrote:
> Ok , so I was deceived this is a crippled adware infected piece of crap
> software.
> They are not exactly doing their company a favor with this
>
> Peter
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2005\07\21@004213 by Matt Pobursky

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Peter,

I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion but you can get the story
right from the CEO's mouth:
http://www.alibre.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1315
I can also say that Alibre is a very reputable company. I've been a
licensed user of Alibre Design Professional for about a year now and
I've been very satisfied and impressed with how they do business as
well as the quality and value of their product.
I hope they're successful with this strategy -- god knows someone
needed to do something to break the "workstation" mentality of CAD
vendors with regards to price and licensing policies.
I bought Alibre Design because I needed to do 3D modeling in my one person consulting company and couldn't justify a huge cash outlay with a large maintenance charge per year just to keep the software active. Even Solidworks have priced themselves out of my reach, nevermind ProEngineer. Alibre fit the bill, works great and I can afford it. It does about 99% of what Solidworks can do, some things Solidworks can't do and (according to users who are well versed in both) is easier to
learn and use.
I don't expect to ever see adware or crippled software from Alibre, it
simply isn't their style and I don't think they'd risk their
reputation as a top notch software vendor. I think in this case, they
are simply "thinking outside the box". I say good luck to them and hope
they succeed.

Matt Pobursky
Maximum Performance Systems

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:47:48 -0400, Peter van Hoof wrote:
> Ok , so I was deceived this is a crippled adware infected piece of crap
> software.
> They are not exactly doing their company a favor with this

> Peter

2005\07\21@005945 by Peter van Hoof

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If you look on the site, you can find that all screenshots show about a fifth of
the screen is covered by adverising, in comments on the forum  there are post's
of alibre employees claiming the program needs an internet connection for the
ads, crippled functions (even though a full version was promised ) I am not
impressed

Peter van Hoof.

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2005\07\21@045942 by Matt Pobursky

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Well... after poking around the Alibre and Alibre Xpress sites I'd have
to conclude you are right about Alibre Xpress being Adware.
This is most disappointing even though it really doesn't affect me
personally.
I think Alibre has made a big mistake using adware in any shape or form. It sucks with Opera and Eudora and I don't use either of them and never will. It does appear they may have some nominal registration fee
to get rid of the adware (like Opera and Eudora). If it were available
and I liked the software I might choose this route. Still, they created
unreasonable expectations with the way they "sold" the software and I
think killed any goodwill they may have generated in the process.

I didn't get the impression that any functions are crippled but some functionality is definitely missing vs. Alibre Design. I fully expected that and I think any of the users who paid for the Alibre Design software would be pretty upset if they didn't. What I was hoping they'd do is give away the current Alibre Design 8.x software as the "freebie" and require users to pay to upgrade to the upcoming 9.0 version. That would seem to be a logical and fair thing to do. That way new users would get real 3D modeling and expose Alibre to a lot of new users and still possibly entice them into upgrading to newer and better software. Silly me, I guess that's why I'm not the marketing director at a
software company!

Hmmmm. I'll wait to see how this plays out but I am going to post a
comment on the Alibre site and let them know I think they made a big
mistake in how they handled all this. I have been a big proponent of
Alibre up until now. I'm not sure if I still will be after this mess.

Matt Pobursky
Maximum Performance Systems

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:59:42 -0400, Peter van Hoof wrote:
> If you look on the site, you can find that all screenshots show about
> a fifth of the screen is covered by adverising, in comments on the
> forum  there are post's of alibre employees claiming the program
> needs an internet connection for the ads, crippled functions (even
> though a full version was promised ) I am not impressed

> Peter van Hoof.

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2005\07\21@074929 by Bob J

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For $49.00 they offer a version without the adware.  Having shells
disabled is a big show stopper for me.  But for someone who wants to
create some machined parts really its not a bad deal.

Regards,
Bob

On 7/20/05, Peter van Hoof <TakeThisOuTpeterEraseMEspamspam_OUTwhacky-scientist.com> wrote:
> Ok , so I was deceived this is a crippled adware infected piece of crap
> software.
> They are not exactly doing their company a favor with this
>
> Peter
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2005\07\21@085257 by Randy Glenn

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As much as I hate to say it, "it could have been worse" - it appears
that the ads they are using are Google AdSense text ads, which are far
less offensive than their animated, Flash-based brethren.

I'm wondering, though, if they're even allowed to do that with the
Google ads. I recall their terms of service being rather stringent.

On 7/21/05, Matt Pobursky <RemoveMEpiclistspamTakeThisOuTmps-design.com> wrote:
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2005\07\21@123947 by PicDude

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Wow, this x-cad mess turned to a mess pretty fast.  It appears that in the
last few minutes, various threads from the discussion forum are being
deleted.  After which a "forum rules" thread has been added.

Now, if they said they were giving away software worth $5k to 30k (in exchange
for an email address), they would be obligated to give away something worth
that much wouldn't they?  Sure, they can make up their own valuation, but
then it would have to be fair compared to their own other products, and if
their $5k+ package (or less) does not have adware, then I can't see then
getting away with that.  They already received others' email addresses, so
that can't be undone, even if they choose not to use it.  I'm hoping this
hits 100k as I think it will be fun after that. :-)

Cheers,
-Neil.


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