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'[OT:] Wanted - screen capture ftrom DOS'
2004\07\07@234302 by Russell McMahon

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I'm looking for a program (preferably a free one :-)) that will perform
screen capture in a Windows XP "DOS" window.

While both the standard screen capture keys and Wisdom Softs superb (& free)
Screen Hunter happily capture Windows windows under XP, neither work
correctly when trying to capture an image from a "DOS box". (Equally bad in
full screen or windowed modes).

It seems likely that XP is muscling in on their act.
Any ideas for a fix or an alternative.

I am trying to capture screen output from a venerable steam driven DOS based
design program. I can transfer the files to another PC or reboot under eg
WIN98SE, but it shouldn't be necessary.


       Russell McMahon

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2004\07\07@235754 by Alan Schnittman

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At 10:41 PM 7/7/2004, Russell McMahon wrote:

>I'm looking for a program (preferably a free one :-)) that will perform
>screen capture in a Windows XP "DOS" window.
>
>[snip]


I really like the SnagIt program from TechSmith.  There's a menu choice for
doing full-screen DOS captures.  That will probably do what you want;
you'll probably need to turn off the "preview" feature.  I use it under
Win2k (haven't tried the DOS capture though) so I suppose that it will work
with XP as well.

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2004\07\08@000915 by Joe Jansen

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ItfanView:

http://www.irfanview.com/

I just tested it under windows 2000, and it happily captured the image
My XP machines are both powered off for the night, but it should
work.

Start it up, select Image-> Create new, and hit ok
then, hit C or go to Options and select capture.  Set it to capture
the foreground window, client area, set your hot key as desired and
hit OK

select your dos window, (move your mouse out of the way) and hit your
hot key.  Viola!

HTH!

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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:41:59 +1200, Russell McMahon
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2004\07\08@061231 by Future

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If you are talkin about DOS prompt, just select the window, press alt+print
screen and paste into your favorite graphics editing program.

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2004\07\08@100301 by Russell McMahon

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> I really like the SnagIt program from TechSmith.  There's a menu choice
for
> doing full-screen DOS captures.  That will probably do what you want;
> you'll probably need to turn off the "preview" feature.  I use it under
> Win2k (haven't tried the DOS capture though) so I suppose that it will
work
> with XP as well.

I'll try it.
But Prt Scrn works in WIN2K and not in XPp so ...

> <http://www.techsmith.com/>

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2004\07\08@100302 by Russell McMahon

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> If you are talkin about DOS prompt, just select the window, press
alt+print
> screen and paste into your favorite graphics editing program.

As I noted - it doesn't work FOR ME in XP. It does work in WIN2K, WIN98SE
etc


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2004\07\08@100305 by Russell McMahon

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> ItfanView:
>
> http://www.irfanview.com/
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> I just tested it under windows 2000, and it happily captured the image
>  My XP machines are both powered off for the night, but it should
> work.
>
> Start it up, select Image-> Create new, and hit ok
> then, hit C or go to Options and select capture.  Set it to capture
> the foreground window, client area, set your hot key as desired and
> hit OK
>
> select your dos window, (move your mouse out of the way) and hit your
> hot key.  Viola!


Doesn't work for me. MAY be system specific.

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2004\07\08@101544 by John J. McDonough

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From: "Russell McMahon" <@spam@apptechKILLspamspamPARADISE.NET.NZ>
Subject: Re: [OT:] Wanted - screen capture ftrom DOS


> > If you are talkin about DOS prompt, just select the window, press
> alt+print
> > screen and paste into your favorite graphics editing program.
>
> As I noted - it doesn't work FOR ME in XP. It does work in WIN2K, WIN98SE
> etc

PrtSc, not Alt+PrtSc. (I think that's what is was pre-XP as well, although I
do sort of remember the Alt from the DOS days).  Or are you using a program
that has hooked Prtsc?  You may want to take a look at what you start
automagically.

--McD

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2004\07\08@104729 by Future

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As I mremember, just prtsc will capture the whole screen.

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> > > If you are talkin about DOS prompt, just select the window, press
> > alt+print
> > > screen and paste into your favorite graphics editing program.
> >
> > As I noted - it doesn't work FOR ME in XP. It does work in WIN2K,
WIN98SE
> > etc
>
> PrtSc, not Alt+PrtSc. (I think that's what is was pre-XP as well, although
I
> do sort of remember the Alt from the DOS days).  Or are you using a
program
> that has hooked Prtsc?  You may want to take a look at what you start
> automagically.
>
> --McD
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2004\07\08@150645 by Jose Da Silva

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On July 11, 2004 07:33 am, Future wrote:
>As I mremember, just prtsc will capture the whole screen.
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2004\07\08@213452 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 11:33 AM 7/11/2004 -0300, you wrote:
>As I mremember, just prtsc will capture the whole screen.

PrtScn captures the entire display (both monitors if you have two)

Alt-PrtScn captures just the program window that has focus.

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2004\07\09@001804 by Russell McMahon

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> As I mremember, just prtsc will capture the whole screen.

OK - have refined the problem.
The application will ONLY run in full screen DOS
XP will only capture DOS screens from a non full screen window - at least on
the system I have tried it on.
WIN2K Pro works OK.
WIN98SE works OK.

I suspect the problem is insoluble without excess effort / delving.




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2004\07\09@002929 by Russell McMahon

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> According to the linux newsgroups, <right+ALT><right+ALT><PrtScr> brings
on
> the blue screen of death.... maybe <ctrl><ctrl> ...forgot which control
> key, but thought it was a goofy oversight for that to happen on XP.
> ....perhaps that's why you don't have PrtScr  ??????   ;-P


I have locked up my XP system solid several times in the last few days while
trying to capture a DOS screen so it seems they may be correct. Very few
other things do that to XP.


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2004\07\10@113656 by dr. Imre Bartfai

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Hello Russell,
do you want to capture a graphical screen, a text one, or both?
Imre

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Russell McMahon wrote:

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2004\07\10@121052 by Russell McMahon

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> do you want to capture a graphical screen, a text one, or both?

A graphical screen.
I've come to the conclusion that the problem is PROBABLY specific to the
program concerned and possibly even my system.

The O/S is XP home. The program being captured is the old DOS based Protel
Autotrax. I have used it for capturing simple schematics for pasting into
Irfanview to make GIFs to go with emails. Worked well on 95, 98SE, WIN2k
even.

Autotrax forces a full screen DOS window in XP -  not necessarily in the
other O/Ss AFAIR.
I can boot the PC concerned in 98SE and it works OK.

I tried the all singing all dancing screen capture program (name escapes me)
recommended here recently but that also failed FOR ME. May work for others.
And I may have done something wrong as it was extremely flexible.

I can live without the facility in XP - but would rather live with it :-)


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2004\07\10@122130 by Marcel Duchamp

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At 09:10 AM 7/10/2004, you wrote:
I can boot the PC concerned in 98SE and it works OK.

>I tried the all singing all dancing screen capture program (name escapes me)
>recommended here recently but that also failed FOR ME. May work for others.
>And I may have done something wrong as it was extremely flexible.
>
>I can live without the facility in XP - but would rather live with it :-)
>
>
>     Russell McMahon

If you have not done so yet, try changing the compatibility mode of
autotrax. Right click it's shortcut icon and select properties. Click on
the compatibility tab and take your chances... then try the various screen
capture methods.
MD

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2004\07\10@123002 by Denny Esterline

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> I can live without the facility in XP - but would rather live with it :-)
>
>
>     Russell McMahon

Does Autotrax print functionality?

Consider some of the print-to-file tools. There's even a couple of PDF
tools that connect via print driver. Worth a try.

-Denny

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2004\07\10@165401 by Hopkins

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Russell - have you tried Srip32 from http://www.progency.com/download.html
free down load - appears to work on a dos windowed area on my XP machine.


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2004\07\10@184620 by redtock8

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Hi Russell,
I am running XP also. Right now I have OE open, this reply window and XTREE
gold(old dos program) in a window.
XTREE opened full screen then I hit "ALT+ENTER" and it went to a window.
Also you can right click on the EXE file
then properties and then screen and choose window so that the program opens
as a window.

Al
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2004\07\11@063848 by dr. Imre Bartfai

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Hello,

I can only as a real DOS user: try the grabsc11 package from SimtelNet.
Obviously it works on BIOS level so maybe you have a chance to work. I use
it often (as told: in real DOS) with success. There are some pitfalls,
though. If you try and have questions, do not hesitate to ask.

Regards,
Imre

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