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'[OT:] Vacuum cleaner static?'
2004\03\04@170705 by Robert Ussery

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Hi, all.

In replacing my mom's CD-ROM (see other thread), I naturally had to take the
computer all to pieces. Since this computer hasn't been opened in about 10
years, it's naturally full of dust bunnies.

How safe is it to take a normal vacuum cleaner to the innards? I'm concerned
that static electricity from the vacuum hose might cause something inside to
die. How much of a concern is this in general? i.e., should I be cautious of
vacuuming the sawdust and metal shavings off of my PIC boards?

If all else fails, I can bring out the compressor and blow all the stuff
off, but I don't want to have to clean up the subsequent mess.

Thanks for your help!



- Robert


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2004\03\04@174934 by Jinx

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> If all else fails, I can bring out the compressor and blow all the stuff
> off, but I don't want to have to clean up the subsequent mess

I take that sort of thing outside and use the blower end of the vacuum
to set those dust bunnies free. They aren't the breeding kind of bunnies
so there's no problem with pest management later. Even a small stiff
brush will do if there's no blower end available. I find that the PSU and
fan are usually the most dirty. Don't know how keen you are to get into
the PSU with a 1" paintbrush to loosen it (and then watch it puff out the
back when you power-up). Fluff and dust on other parts like the m/b
isn't so bad

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2004\03\05@064112 by Dominic Stratten

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Use a compressor

I've seen an entire 50 client network go down because someone vacumed out a
laser printer which was connected to the network.

The resulting charge from the dust/toner/vacuum took out 2 switches and four
machine network cards.

The laser printer was fine though - just brought the business to a halt for
2 days.

You can buy proper earthed vacuum cleaners for this kind of application but
you could always do what I used to do - take a deep breath, blow into the
case and run until the dust settles - repeat a few times and off you go ;)


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2004\03\05@085848 by John Ferrell

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My experience says do not ever blow the crud with forced air from any
source. It will move the crud to places where it would not otherwise be
deposited. A soft brush will remove everything that is loose enough to cause
problems, this is not like washing dishes. Excessive cleaning can result in
problems!
Vacuum cleaners should be used to clen the bench & floor, not the equipment.


John Ferrell
http://DixieNC.US

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2004\03\05@100743 by M. Adam Davis

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Some vacuum cleaners produce very little static, but it's not easy to
tell if yours would or not.  I would suggest you purchase a can of air
from a computer shop.  Blowing tends to get more of the dust than
vacuuming anyway.

-Adam

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2004\03\05@152352 by Jinx

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> Some vacuum cleaners produce very little static

If the PC is turned on during the blowing, isn't this level of
static insignificant or irrelevant ?

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2004\03\05@193611 by SM Ling

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Is it true under high humidity environment, vacuuming PCB is not a problem ?
Unconsciously I am doing it all the time as it is an instrinctly way, and
has no problem so far.  Guess it should be safe under high humidity as the
industry is using water-blasting as a way remove conformal coating.

Ling SM


> > Some vacuum cleaners produce very little static
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> If the PC is turned on during the blowing, isn't this level of
> static insignificant or irrelevant ?
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2004\03\06@002515 by michael brown

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From: "Robert Ussery"
> If all else fails, I can bring out the compressor and blow all the
stuff
> off, but I don't want to have to clean up the subsequent mess.

One word of advice; "outside".  ;-)  I've blown out at least 75
computers using 90PSI compressed air with no problems, just using some
common sense.  The primary rule is to not let the fans spin uncontrolled
(burns up bearings) and to stand so that the wind carries the filthy
disease laden cloud of dust away from you.  Pun intended, but you could
catch a nasty virus from the dust.

michael brown

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2004\03\08@161756 by llile

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I got a monster static shock from my vacuum cleaner just the other day.

You can duplicate this easily:  Spill a large quantity of salt on the
floor (my wife did this as she was cooking breakfast)

Vacuum it up with a plastic hose

You have just created a wonderful van de Graaf generator.  The dry salt is
just conductive enough to pull charge out of the nonconductive plastic
hose, sorta like the rubber belt in a van de graaf.

Next, touch the faucet.  You won't forget the experience soon.

I would keep the metal case intact if you use a vacuum around your
computer.  Try one of those cans of compressed air.


-- Lawrence Lile
Senior Project Engineer
Toastmaster, Inc.
Division of Salton, Inc.
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Hi, all.

In replacing my mom's CD-ROM (see other thread), I naturally had to take
the
computer all to pieces. Since this computer hasn't been opened in about 10
years, it's naturally full of dust bunnies.

How safe is it to take a normal vacuum cleaner to the innards? I'm
concerned
that static electricity from the vacuum hose might cause something inside
to
die. How much of a concern is this in general? i.e., should I be cautious
of
vacuuming the sawdust and metal shavings off of my PIC boards?

If all else fails, I can bring out the compressor and blow all the stuff
off, but I don't want to have to clean up the subsequent mess.

Thanks for your help!



- Robert


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2004\03\08@164458 by John Ferrell

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I have seen spilled toner beads from laser printers draw arcs in excess of
an inch.

John Ferrell
http://DixieNC.US

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2004\03\08@170615 by llile

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The level of static is even less if you turn the PC on while hosing it
down.  This proceedure guarantees that your PC will not die of a static
shock.

-- Lawrence Lile
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> Some vacuum cleaners produce very little static

If the PC is turned on during the blowing, isn't this level of
static insignificant or irrelevant ?

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2004\03\08@171648 by Jinx
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> The level of static is even less if you turn the PC on while hosing
> it down

Hosing down ? Is that what you get if you super-size a damp cloth ?

> -- Lawrence Lile
> P.S. Don't try this at home.

OK, I'll try it at somebody else's

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