Post by thread:[OT:] SpaceShipOne goes supersonic

This is the first in-flight firing of the rubber-powered rocket motor that I know of. Pretty cool! I'm sure it is no coincidence that Scaled decided to do this on the 100th anniversary of flight. This is a pretty impressive accomplishment for a relatively small, privately funded organization! The rocket peaked at 68,000' and 930mph, and accelerated at 3gs in a climb!. I would expect to see them in space probably within the first six months of 2004. They are really doing some very exciting stuff. It is great to see a few pioneers doing cutting edge development on a small scale, and doing it quite successfully! It is really sad that some of Rutan's other superb designs were smothered and his development in the experimental market extinguished by the legal climate in the US. General Aviation might be going somewhere if people like him weren't prevented from doing their work. Steve Ruse Quoting Russell McMahon <.....apptechKILLspam@spam@PARADISE.NET.NZ>: > Bottom of page: > > > www.hobbyspace.com/AAdmin/archive/RLV/2003/RLVNews2003- 12.html#Dec.17.03 {Quote hidden}> > You know you are starting to get somewhere at this point. > > First ever supersonic flight by a manned craft not backed in some way by > government sponsorship. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList .....piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspam.....mitvma.mit.edu

The best part is the link right below stating delays in NASA's X-37 project. This whole thing is really just a reaffirmation of the role of private enterprise in the driving of technology. Mike H. {Quote hidden}> >http://www.hobbyspace.com/AAdmin/archive/RLV/2003/RLVNews2003-12.html#Dec.17.03 > >You know you are starting to get somewhere at this point. > >First ever supersonic flight by a manned craft not backed in some way by >government sponsorship. > >-- >http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList >EraseMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu _________________________________________________________________ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

At 11:59 AM 12/18/2003 -0500, David VanHorn wrote: >At 11:33 AM 12/18/2003 -0500, KILLspamsteveKILLspamWOTELECTRONICS.COM wrote: > >>Flying? I've never heard of it. It has actally gone supersonic? Who designed it? > >Jim Bede, of James bond fame.. The little jet that takes off out of the horse trailer. That's the subsonic one. > >http://www.bd5.com/bd01000.htm A little more googling turns up this: http://www.ipilot.com/learn/expert-view.asp?cur=0&cid=3 What ever happened to the BD-10? I know that the first one crashed, but can you still build one? The first one crashed, and the second one crashed as well. Each crash killed the then-president of the company developing the BD-10 for the market. Rights to the design were bounced around for a while, and I believe it's pretty much in limbo, now. At one point, a Canadian outfit was trying to develop it as a low-cost military trainer, but nothing came of it. I think there were four originally built... the Bede prototype, two crashed as noted above, and one constructed by a customer. There are two listed in the 2001 registration database. The prototype is still listed as being owned by Bede Jet Corporation, and the other one is registered to a man in California. Apparently some have flown, but they seem to have a problem with the smoothness of landing. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

On Thursday 18 December 2003 09:59 am, David VanHorn wrote: > At 11:33 AM 12/18/2003 -0500, RemoveMEsteveTakeThisOuTWOTELECTRONICS.COM wrote: > >Flying? I've never heard of it. It has actally gone supersonic? Who > > designed it? > > Jim Bede, of James bond fame.. The little jet that takes off out of > the horse trailer. That's the subsonic one. > > http://www.bd5.com/bd01000.htm Flying BD-10's that fast can be detrimental to one's health and longevity, for sure... www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001206X02760&key=1 (The tail snapped off during tests to push to 380 KIAS.) www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20030310X00313&key=1 (Eyewitness said he saw something go by so fast he couldn't focus on it and then saw parts floating in the ocean.) --- From : http://www.ipilot.com/learn/expert-view.asp?cur=0&cid=3 What ever happened to the BD-10? I know that the first one crashed, but can you still build one? The first one crashed, and the second one crashed as well. Each crash killed the then-president of the company developing the BD-10 for the market. Rights to the design were bounced around for a while, and I believe it's pretty much in limbo, now. At one point, a Canadian outfit was trying to develop it as a low-cost military trainer, but nothing came of it. I think there were four originally built... the Bede prototype, two crashed as noted above, and one constructed by a customer. There are two listed in the 2001 registration database. The prototype is still listed as being owned by Bede Jet Corporation, and the other one is registered to a man in California. --- Ed: And that "man in California" was killed in his two years later... in February 2003, according to the NTSB reports above. I don't think the BD-10 qualifies as a SAFE aircraft to break the sound barrier in. It just may have been the first to do so (380 KIAS at what density altitude?) but no one's survived to tell the tale so far. Pretty good article about a whole lot of the projects and people involved in "pushing the envelope": http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20031129/CENTRE29/TPFocus/ Which says : "The BD-5 debacle didn't stop the indefatigable Mr. Bede. In the late 1980s, he designed the BD-10, a supersonic jet that could be built in a garage. The project faded into oblivion after a series of deadly crashes caused by design flaws." -- Nate Duehr, spamBeGonenatespamBeGonenatetech.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads