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2004\07\12@110919 by James Newton, Host

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Oh! I hope not!

It's a balance between keeping the great content coming and keeping the
sponsorship of MIT so that the great content CAN keep coming.

If it relates at all, the site traffic at piclist.com has been way down as
well starting a couple months ago.

I think spring fever is in the air, but I do worry that PICs are being
passed over by some of the cool, new, cheap, wizbang controllers available
from other mfgrs. E.g. the new Atmel chip. Any comments on that idea?

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> This collective pause of the list is quite fascinating, it's
> almost Christmassy. Maybe there's a dose of the guilts going
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2004\07\12@112754 by Shawn Wilton

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I would totally agree with you on the passed over idea.  I know at my
school, they don't care much for Microchip because of it's arcane arch.
compared to the newer cleaner Atmel's.


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2004\07\12@115741 by David VanHorn

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At 08:27 AM 7/12/2004 -0700, Shawn Wilton wrote:

>I would totally agree with you on the passed over idea.  I know at my
>school, they don't care much for Microchip because of it's arcane arch. compared to the newer cleaner Atmel's.


I for one, am not surprised. ;)

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2004\07\12@144054 by Martin Klingensmith

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James Newton, Host wrote:
> Oh! I hope not!
>
> It's a balance between keeping the great content coming and keeping the
> sponsorship of MIT so that the great content CAN keep coming.
>
> If it relates at all, the site traffic at piclist.com has been way down as
> well starting a couple months ago.
>
> I think spring fever is in the air, but I do worry that PICs are being
> passed over by some of the cool, new, cheap, wizbang controllers available
> from other mfgrs. E.g. the new Atmel chip. Any comments on that idea?
>
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Hi James,
I have been watching many mailing lists and internet forums for years.
There is always a lot less traffic in the summer, because some people
[not me] have more fun outside-type things to do.
It's the same trend that happens over a week. Traffic is high on Monday,
low on Friday & weekends. Traffic will come back up when it gets cold
and/or rainy.


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2004\07\13@212147 by Andrew Warren

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Shawn Wilton <PICLISTspamspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu> wrote:

> at my school, they don't care much for Microchip because of it's
> arcane arch. compared to the newer cleaner Atmel's.

   I wouldn't expect a school's microcontroller-selection criteria
   to be similar to a real customer's...

   -Andy

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2004\07\13@214054 by David VanHorn

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At 06:24 PM 7/13/2004 -0700, Andrew Warren wrote:

>Shawn Wilton <RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTspammitvma.mit.edu> wrote:
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>> at my school, they don't care much for Microchip because of it's
>> arcane arch. compared to the newer cleaner Atmel's.
>
>    I wouldn't expect a school's microcontroller-selection criteria
>    to be similar to a real customer's...

Well, everyone makes their own decisions based on what compromises make the most sense to them.  Engineering is the art of compromise.

I would think that the AVR would be much easier to learn, since it has far less "kinky things you need to know or work around".

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2004\07\14@021446 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> I would think that the AVR would be much easier to learn,
> since it has far less "kinky things you need to know or work around".

My school uses PICs as an example of a low-end microcontroller, ARM for
high-end.

Wouter van Ooijen

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