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2004\03\07@133610 by Juan Garofalo

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Howard Winter wrote:

>Something has always puzzled me about light - if Einstein is right, how can
it exhibit >Doppler shift?


       check out http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/

       Perhaps we can get rid of such mystical ideas as curved space and
schroedinger's cat.


Regards,
Juan.

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2004\03\07@151108 by res0qrqr

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Excellent site reference, Juan!  I'm tempted to order the
CD (hey, it's only five bucks...)
Brian Aase

On 7 Mar 2004 at 15:40, Juan Garofalo wrote:

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>         check out http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/
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>         Perhaps we can get rid of such mystical ideas as curved space and
> schroedinger's cat.
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> Regards,
> Juan.

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2004\03\07@153146 by Russell McMahon

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> > Perhaps we can get rid of such mystical ideas as curved space and
> > schroedinger's cat.


Perhaps. And perhaps not. I think the cat may not be out of the bag quite
yet.

Had the quickest of skims only. Note that while many of these papers purport
to explain relativistic effects, some instead attempt to deny the measured
results. Fair enough, but eg 1D which denies the deflection of light Bu the
sun has also to deal with stellar and galactic optical lensing which is
currently being used to detect and measure objects "at the extremes of the
universe"*. As these effects are in some cases extremely clear it will be
much harder to explain them away



       Russell McMahon

* - all the usual disclaimers apply.

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2004\03\07@185958 by rocky

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> > > Perhaps we can get rid of such mystical ideas as curved space and
> > > schroedinger's cat.
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> Perhaps. And perhaps not. I think the cat may not be out of the bag quite
> yet.

       Actually, ins't the cat in the box?


> Had the quickest of skims only. Note that while many of these papers
purport
> to explain relativistic effects, some instead attempt to deny the measured
> results. Fair enough, but eg 1D which denies the deflection of light Bu
the
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2004\03\07@195145 by Mark Jordan

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       Not related (Eletromagnetism), but very interesting too:

       http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm

       Mark Jordan, PY3SS


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2004\03\10@051546 by Howard Winter

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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 15:40:09 -0300, Juan Garofalo wrote:

> Perhaps we can get rid of such mystical ideas as
curved space and schroedinger's cat.

A friend of mine came up with a variation on the latter
experiment, called "Franoux's Estate Agent".  You follow
the same procedure as Schroedinger, but with a person of
that profession in the box.  At the end, you don't
bother to open the box...  :-)

Cheers,

Howard Winter
St.Albans, England

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