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'[OT:] Circuit Cellar in NZ'
2004\10\21@103208 by Dal Wheeler

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The last time Circuit Cellar had distribution issues with me; I got onto an
adult comic subscription.  My wife didn't immediately believe that I knew
nothing about that.  I suggested that my brother might have had something to
do with it and she bought that.  It turns out that CC got the subscription
list mixed up at the printers so some of the subscribers got switched that
month.  I don't know that has anything to do with you in that part of the
world.  I got Octobers quite a while ago, but I'm in the US.  :)

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2004\10\21@115052 by M. Adam Davis

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I remember that.  I think the magazine that it was switched for was
"heavy metal" or something similar.  I couldn't figure out what had
actually happened until Steve Ciarcia used his column in the next
edition to explain the mixup.  The company responsible to labelling and
mailing the magazines mixed up the data files of the two subscriber
bases.  We got the other magazine, but the company caught the problem
before sending the circuit cellar to the other list so we eventually got
circuit cellar as well.

Now I get the electronic edition and just remember to download it once a
month.  It's actually much more handy than print since you can download
the full magazine including ads, but also get the individual articles as
seperate PDFs without ads.  Not to mention cheaper, especially when you
get those $5.00 per year subscription codes.  I still miss reading it in
print - the full magazine PDF is screen resolution, not print resolution
- but all the important bits (articles, schematics, etc) are easy to
read and see.

I wish I had all my old magazines in PDF.  Currently they're taking up a
few file cabinet drawers.

-Adam

Dal Wheeler wrote:

>The last time Circuit Cellar had distribution issues with me; I got onto an
>adult comic subscription.  My wife didn't immediately believe that I knew
>nothing about that.  I suggested that my brother might have had something to
>do with it and she bought that.  It turns out that CC got the subscription
>list mixed up at the printers so some of the subscribers got switched that
>month.  I don't know that has anything to do with you in that part of the
>world.  I got Octobers quite a while ago, but I'm in the US.  :)
>
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2004\10\21@125305 by Mike Hord

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> I wish I had all my old magazines in PDF.  Currently they're taking up a
> few file cabinet drawers.
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> -Adam

What's that space worth to you?  For $135 you could have all of the back
issues in PDF format on CD.

Or, for $54, you could have any 3 years, which may be better if you've
been getting the EE for awhile.  No point in paying for issues you already
have!

It's only going to get more expensive as they add years, though, so you
should probably think about doing it before they put up the 2004 CD.

Mike H.
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2004\10\21@135438 by Dal Wheeler

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Yea, well that’s my problem --its difficult to justify --I've got ~10 years
worth in a box that I won't have to pay extra for.  It's like paying to
upgrade the windows in your house; it doesn't really feel like you've done
much constructive with your money because you didn't get anything you didn’t
already have before...  It's like paying the garbage man to take something
away that you think you might want later...  Something like that.  I would
like to get the space back...  :)

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2004\10\21@152203 by M. Adam Davis

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I actually have very few years of CC.  Most of my magazine cache
consists of Popular Electronics, Radio Electronics, Electronics Now, and
misc Nuts and Volts as well as a few others.  Early 90s electronics
hobby magazines.

-Adam

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2004\10\21@155756 by James Newton, Host

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M. Adam Davis  says:
> I wish I had all my old magazines in PDF.  Currently they're
> taking up a few file cabinet drawers.


Is there anyone else who wishes they had the first few years of Byte
Magazine scanned in? I swear that would be a good start on a college
education...

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2004\10\21@182325 by Bob Ammerman

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> Is there anyone else who wishes they had the first few years of Byte
> Magazine scanned in? I swear that would be a good start on a college
> education...
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> James Newton: PICList.com webmaster, former Admin #3

I still have my 0.01 centennial issue of Byte.

Bob Ammerman
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2004\10\21@195710 by James Newton, Host

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Bob Ammerman  says:
> I still have my 0.01 centennial issue of Byte.

Huh? What is that? I thought I knew everything about that magazine <GRIN>

I have:
- Volumn 1 #2, 6, 13 thru 16 and "Best of Byte Volumn 1" which covers most
content in the first 12 issues. There are 16 issues in the first volumn
spanning Sep 75 thru Dec 76

- Volumn 2 (1977) #2, 3 thru 7. 9 thru 12

- Volumn 3 (1978) #1 thru 9, 12

- Volumn 4 (1979) #1 thru 12

My Wish list is:
- Volumn 2 #1, 8

- Volumn 3 #10, 11

I have duplicates to sell of:
- Volume 9 (1984) #7 (July)

- Volume 4 (1979) #1 (January), #2 (Febuary) x2, #3 (March), #5 (May), #6
(June), #7 (July), #8 (August), #9 (September)

- Volume 3 (1978) #2 (Feburary), #9 (September)

If I won the lottery tomorrow (which would be a good trick since I don't
play it) I would setup or pay to scan, OCR, and convert to HTML all the old
issues and then just uploading to anon ftp somewhere and let people copy it
as they liked. It is a damn crime that CMP is sitting on that content. Like
I said, you could get the bulk of an education in micro's from those old
issues. And enjoy doing it.



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2004\10\21@200932 by Peter Johansson

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James Newton, Host writes:

> If I won the lottery tomorrow (which would be a good trick since I don't
> play it) I would setup or pay to scan, OCR, and convert to HTML all the old
> issues and then just uploading to anon ftp somewhere and let people copy it
> as they liked. It is a damn crime that CMP is sitting on that content. Like
> I said, you could get the bulk of an education in micro's from those old
> issues. And enjoy doing it.

I've still got a dozen boxes of magazines from the late '70s/early
'80s that I've been hanging into for the same reasons.  At some point
I want to cut the spines, put them in a sheet feeder, scan them, and
burn off to DVD.  OCR is nice, and nearly reliable, but storage is so
cheap it's still worthwhile to keep the raw pixels arround.

-p.
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2004\10\21@212428 by Jim Korman

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James Newton, Host wrote:

<snip>  Like I said, you could get the bulk of an education in micro's
> from those old issues. And enjoy doing it.
>
I did. My first first was the August 1978 "Pascal" issue. Have a nearly

complete set from that issue up to about 1987 or so.

Circuit Cellar is about the only mag that I get (paper) that hasn't
become much smaller (C++ User's Journal) or folded completely.

I remember when I got the Heavy Metal issue and hoping that some poor
soul in some other country wasn't going to have to explain why they
were receiving it.


Jim





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2004\10\21@215831 by Bob Ammerman

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I have three issues:  #12 (August 1976),  #14 (October 1976) and #13...

The 0.01 Centennial Issue is dated September, 1976 - Inside it calls itself
"Byte #13 (or if you're superstitious Volume 2, number 1)"

Bob Ammerman

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2004\10\22@040311 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> I remember when I got the Heavy Metal issue and hoping that some poor
> soul in some other country wasn't going to have to explain why they
> were receiving it.

Why doesn't anyone pity the Heavy Metal subscriber that had to explain
to his friends why he has a CC on his table?

Wouter van Ooijen

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2004\10\22@104901 by Bill & Pookie

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Sure had great basic stuff back when "hacker" was not a bad word.  Got
information to write RSA encryption program for Apple II.  And had one issue
on Morse code, said hand sent code couldn't be decoded.  Wrote program that
would take audio from radio and produce text on old apple II.

I Think the WWW is the best thing that has happened since the Whole Earth
Catalog.

Bill

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2004\10\22@131102 by Peter L. Peres

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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Bill & Pookie wrote:

> Sure had great basic stuff back when "hacker" was not a bad word.  Got
> information to write RSA encryption program for Apple II.  And had one issue
> on Morse code, said hand sent code couldn't be decoded.  Wrote program that
> would take audio from radio and produce text on old apple II.
>
> I Think the WWW is the best thing that has happened since the Whole Earth
> Catalog.

Now, consider that all good things discovered so far were regulated or
made illegal before too long ...

Peter
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2004\10\22@134948 by M. Adam Davis

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I could be wrong, but guessing at the two target audiences, I suspect
Heavy Metal gained more new subscribers from the mixup than did CC.

-Adam

Wouter van Ooijen wrote:

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