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'[OT!] Re: A _FREE_ syntax-highlighting editor (thr'
1998\05\21@015605 by Craig Lee

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>EMACS was like THE original freeware product.Ê It and most of its clones
>are freeware, and most are available with full source code.

You wouldn't be LIKE from Southern California or something would ya dude?
Ê

I am another unlikely supporter of EMACS.

I learned it a few years ago back when I was still working for Japan Radio
Co.
because it was necessary to port much code back and forth between our
homebrew test database on unix and my test applications under DOS.Ê Since my

tendency is to do everything as efficiently as possible(some call this
hacking, I
don't know why....), I found it efficient to use just the one editor.Ê Also,
EMACS
doesn't just automatically screw with the carraige (sp?, not a father)
return line feed characters like most dos or windows editors do, which is a
real pain when your unix os is trying to execute your scripts after they've
went through the dos editor!

..... then again, I was a big fan of Wordstar... and am really ticked at
Windows 95 which forces me to use the mouse more often than I care too.

Craig "Interfacing my brain" Lee
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1998\05\21@030318 by Dennis Plunkett

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Ah, yes editors, many thoughts come to mind. I agree with the EMACS (I have
to use UMACS for the OS9 type stuff I do). Call be old fashioned, but I do
like the Wordstar type keyboard commands (CTRL KB - CTRL KK CTRL KY, are
nothing like old friends), there is too much of that mouse stuff involved in
todays editors (Give me Nortons editor anyday!). A simple question, how much
time is waisted with the point and click drag and drop? When all you need to
do is type in text? (Please excuse me, as I have not given note to
Cangy(Spelling?) characters etc.)

I must say that windows seems to force the creator into using that mouse, I
do like the syntax high lighting and that sort of thing (Brief did that, as
does the editor in HI TECH C ,and the old Borland IDE (Pre Version 4)!), and
yes Codewright is a darn good semi intergrated type editor, but so it should
be: it sells for around $690 Aust! (Nasty little problem with automatic
braces and(;;) when you type "for" in C.

But we must all agree in, editors have come along way since the old DOS
edlin!!!!!!

But alas: the more we want, the more an editor does, the less we think.



Dennis


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1998\05\21@033952 by William Chops Westfield

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   >EMACS was like THE original freeware product.=A0 It and most of its
   >clones are freeware, and most are available with full source code.

   You wouldn't be LIKE from Southern California or something would ya dude?

Nah, it just seems that certain vocal manerisms help "personalize" printed
text, sort of like the emoticons and whatnot.  In this case, it's supposed
to add a certain degree of vehemance that wouldn't be obvious in pure text.

I got involved with emacs when I was working on a clone for tops-10.  When
I became a tops20 systems programmer, it was the obvious choice, and an
added bonus was that it ran on the "other" systems too.  I haven't run into
a particularly good reason to use anything else.

I still use a unix-clone of a 15 year old tops20 mail reader too.

Some times, new isn't better, eh?

:-)
BillW

1998\05\21@044154 by Andrew Warren

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Dennis Plunkett <spam_OUTPICLISTTakeThisOuTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> wrote:

> Codewright [has a] Nasty little problem with automatic braces and
> (;;) when you type "for" in C.

Dennis:

I haven't noticed that, but I've seen a few other instances where
CodeWright's automatic template insertion isn't totally foolproof.

You could work around the problem by doing infinite loops with
"while (1)" instead of "for (;;)"

-Andy

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1998\05\21@051528 by Morgan Olsson

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Is it fre? (probably not)
Where can we find it?
/Morgan

At 01:40 1998-05-21 -0800, you wrote:
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1998\05\21@055913 by Andrew Warren

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Morgan Olsson <PICLISTspamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU> wrote:

> Is [CodeWright] free? (probably not)
> Where can we find it?

Morgan:

As you suspected, CodeWright is not free; in the USA, it costs $269.

It's published by Premia Corporation; they have a web site at:

   http://www.premia.com

You can download a time-limited, slightly-decontented version of
CodeWright from the web site.

Note:  Many pages on the Premia web site are only reachable through
their Site Map, so if you visit their site, go directly to the Site
Map and do all your navigating from there.

-Andy

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1998\05\21@094705 by ter (Chee Foon Tiang)

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I highly recommend UltraEdit 16 (Win3.x) or 32 (Win95/NT)

      http://www.ultraedt.com

Some of the feature that I really like:

i.    You can switch back and forth between text editing and hex
editing.
     Great for modifying ROM code.

ii.   You can do "column" cut & paste.

iii.   You can customize the toolbar to run you compiler or better
still
     your make utility, and capture the compilation output into a
     window, so you don't even have to leave your editor.
     Just click and compile like from a custom IDE.

iv.  You can edit up to 1Gb of file (if you ever need it).

v.   Best of all, you can customize syntax highlighting for any
     assembly language, C language, HTML, etc...
     (e.g mine have 80C51, PIC, MIPS, H8, HMCS400 (Hitachi's 4-bit)
     assembly and C language syntax-highlighted)

     And it cost only US$30 !!... US$15 for an upgrade.

Regards,
Peter Tiang.

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>>> Andrew Warren <KILLspamfastfwdKILLspamspamIX.NETCOM.COM> 21/May/1998 06:57pm >>>
Morgan Olsson <RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> wrote:

> Is [CodeWright] free? (probably not)
> Where can we find it?

Morgan:

As you suspected, CodeWright is not free; in the USA, it costs $269.

It's published by Premia Corporation; they have a web site at:

   http://www.premia.com

You can download a time-limited, slightly-decontented version of
CodeWright from the web site.

Note:  Many pages on the Premia web site are only reachable through
their Site Map, so if you visit their site, go directly to the Site
Map and do all your navigating from there.

-Andy

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1998\05\21@101655 by Octavio Nogueira

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>I highly recommend UltraEdit 16 (Win3.x) or 32 (Win95/NT)
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>       http://www.ultraedt.com
>
>Some of the feature that I really like:
>
I think the correct is http://www.ultraedit.com

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1998\05\22@021943 by Matthias Granberry

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Those of you who like wordstar, take a look at joe.  Nifty.
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1998\05\22@183645 by Les Gruebner

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I've had great mileage from Ed for DOS/Windows in recent years, after Brief-

http://www.getsoft.com

seems to be very modern, very configurable, and a fraction of the cost of
Codewright. NCI; anyone else comment on using this for PIC .asm .bas or C?
Les Gruebner
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1998\05\23@205955 by Frans Gunawan

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At 11:13 AM 5/21/98 -0300, you wrote:
>>I highly recommend UltraEdit 16 (Win3.x) or 32 (Win95/NT)
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>>       http://www.ultraedt.com
>>
>>Some of the feature that I really like:
>>
>I think the correct is http://www.ultraedit.com

my choice is Multiedit 8.0. It's great. you can search it at http://www.download.com
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