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2004\08\31@132856 by Bob J

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Hi All,

I'm looking to get a "new" DSO, and have my heart set on a Tek TDS 210...but my better half doesn't want me to fork out that kind of cash.  I am considering the new pocket Bitscope, the biggest thing attracting me to it is the mixed signal acquisition with the logic analayzer, but the software seems just a bit basic.  Has anyone had any experience recently with the new bitscope?

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Bob
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2004\08\31@154927 by M. Adam Davis

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I've had trouble with it.  In all fairness, I'm on a deadline and when I
couldn't get it to do what I needed right away I simply set it aside
rather than figure out what was going on.

The main problem I had was it didn't display 4 of the 8 logic lines in
the logic mode, and would only do so intermittently in mixed mode.  It
didn't remember settings on shutdown, so I'd have to set it back up
whenever I restarted it.

I suspect it's mostly software issues, and perhaps if I spent the time
to email back and forth they'd resolve the issues.  I couldn't find the
interface documentation on the site for this version, though (only the
older bitscopes, though it should be similar) so I can't easily create
my own interface right now.

I'm not returning it - it may yet do everything I need it to do, but it
was disappointing to have these problems right off the bat.

-Adam

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2004\08\31@161901 by Bob J

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Hmmmm....the price/featureset is certainly attractive, but if the thing doesn't work....

I was playing around with their DSO software and right off the bat noticed that there are no voltage cursors, and there's no way to save a waveform.

Regards,
Bob

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2004\08\31@234816 by Gaston Gagnon

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Hi Adam,

M. Adam Davis wrote:
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> The main problem I had was it didn't display 4 of the 8 logic lines in
> the logic mode, and would only do so intermittently in mixed mode.  It

What model Bitscope do you have and what version of DSO did you use, DSO
1.1 or DSO 1.2 beta?

> didn't remember settings on shutdown, so I'd have to set it back up
> whenever I restarted it.

They have this on their "to do" list but I wish they do it sooner than
later :(

> I suspect it's mostly software issues, and perhaps if I spent the time
> to email back and forth they'd resolve the issues.

Bruce Tulloch <.....bruceKILLspamspam@spam@bitscope.com> is very cooperative although he may
take a few days to respond these days :-e.

Gaston Gagnon
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'[EE] bitscope'
2004\09\01@074222 by Alan B. Pearce
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>I'm looking to get a "new" DSO, and have my heart
>set on a Tek TDS 210...but my better half doesn't
>want me to fork out that kind of cash.

Perhaps you could come up with a way of using an NKK switch as a display,
push the switch quickly to change range up, long push to change down, double
push for timebase ....

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2004\09\01@085252 by M. Adam Davis

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Gaston Gagnon wrote:

> Hi Adam,
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> What model Bitscope do you have and what version of DSO did you use,
> DSO 1.1 or DSO 1.2 beta?

Pocket Bitscope, and the latest beta version on the website (notes
included with the pocket indicated that I must use the latest beta 1.2,
IIRC)

>
> They have this on their "to do" list but I wish they do it sooner than
> later :(
> Bruce Tulloch <brucespamKILLspambitscope.com> is very cooperative although he may
> take a few days to respond these days :-e.

When I contacted them about a shipping date (they were back ordered at
the time, but nothing on the website or order told me that) they were
very helpful and straighforward.  I don't doubt they'd be able to help
me understand and fix the problem if it's fixable on my end.

I don't want to steer anyone away from it, but it's not a finished or
production quality unit (yet) most likely due to the software.

-Adam

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2004\09\01@105307 by Bob Japundza

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> > Bruce Tulloch <.....bruceKILLspamspam.....bitscope.com> is very cooperative although he may
> > take a few days to respond these days :-e.
>
> When I contacted them about a shipping date (they were back ordered at
> the time, but nothing on the website or order told me that) they were
> very helpful and straighforward.  I don't doubt they'd be able to help
> me understand and fix the problem if it's fixable on my end.
>
> I don't want to steer anyone away from it, but it's not a finished or
> production quality unit (yet) most likely due to the software.

I exchanged some emails with Bruce yesterday, and they said that the current 1.2 beta is not feature-complete and that a voltage cursor and the ability to save waveforms for comparison will be available in the software by the end of Sept.  I think I'm going to hold off on ordering one until I see how the software progresses.

Its a neat instrument at a good price.

Regards,
Bob
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2004\09\01@143623 by Gaston Gagnon

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Bob Japundza wrote:
>>>Bruce Tulloch <EraseMEbrucespam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTbitscope.com> is very cooperative although he may
>>>take a few days to respond these days :-e.
>>
>>When I contacted them about a shipping date (they were back ordered at
>>the time, but nothing on the website or order told me that) they were
>>very helpful and straighforward.  I don't doubt they'd be able to help
>>me understand and fix the problem if it's fixable on my end.
>>
>>I don't want to steer anyone away from it, but it's not a finished or
>>production quality unit (yet) most likely due to the software.
>
>
> I exchanged some emails with Bruce yesterday, and they said that the current 1.2 beta is not feature-complete and that a voltage cursor and the ability to save waveforms for comparison will be available in the software by the end of Sept.  I think I'm going to hold off on ordering one until I see how the software progresses.
>
> Its a neat instrument at a good price.

You are right, it is a fine instrument with a lot of features.
Unfortunately some of them are not usable at the moment.

I own The BS300 model. I am mostly using its logic analyzer feature and
find it very useful.

I know Bitscope people are actively working on DSO. Next Beta 1.2
version is due in a week or two. But for the time being it is very
buggy. Wave Form Generator for one thing is unusable, at least on the
BS300 unit.

My wish is they had published some kind of known bugs list as they are
discovered. That would save beta users a lot of time. By the way if
anyone know of the existence of such list, please give me its address.

Gaston Gagnon
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