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'[EE] Velleman PC scope issues'
2008\12\16@060715 by Hasan Khan

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Hi,
I own a Velleman PCS500 scope (http://www.vellemanusa.com/us/enu/product/view/?id=351379).  It connects to a PC via the parallel printer port.  I bought it four years back for $500...expensive for hobby use. It had been serving well until I upgraded my PC which doesn't have parallel printer port and has USB ports.  As it seemed obvious, I also bought a USB-Parrallel port adapter for the scope.  It didn't work and the scope wouldn't communicate with it.  I bought another adapter and still no luck.

Then I sent an email to Velleman tech support.  Man was I disappointed and pissed off with their response.  They basically said tough luck, their scope uses a propreitary protocol which works only with standard parallel ports and that they were not responsible for changes is PC hardware and that I should buy their new USB based scope ($500).  Why should I replace a perfectly good scope and that too because of a lousy port.  I was expecting at least some help from them on which adapter would work with their scope.  This is the second time a Euorpean company has screwed me.  Earlier I bought a UPS from a french company and their tech support was similar.

Anyway, my question to the great folks of piclist is, what can I do about the USB-Parallel adapter?  Thanks.

2008\12\16@064426 by apptech

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> Anyway, my question to the great folks of piclist is, what can I do about
> the USB-Parallel adapter?  Thanks.

Not what you asked, but mayhaps you can get a PCI printer port or a Cardbus
printerport.

Failing that an annoying but workable solution would be to get the cheapest
/most convenient PC that works, netowrk connect to your main PC and access
the slave PC using eg a VNC variant from your main PC. This gives you the
scope apparently on the main PC. Not ideal, but it will work. You can
probably get an old monochrome laptop with a parallel port that will do the
job at about zero cost. Toshiba T1800 vintage comes to mind. Even much newer
laptops are now getting so cheap as to make this viable. And, VNC is free.




       Russell


2008\12\16@065306 by Picbits Sales

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Have you got a spare PCI slot in the machine which you could put a PCI to
Parallel port adapter ?

I've used these before without any problems.

Other option is to grab an old PC for a couple of bucks/pounds/yen and
dedicate it as a test machine.

Dom

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2008\12\16@085912 by Carl Denk

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And not being sarcastic, but the lesson learned here is when updating a
computer (or anything), one needs to pay attention to the details. In my
case, last spring I updated my PC motherboard. I choose an Intel
DP965LT. It has both PCI and PCI-E slots, 2 RS-232, 1 Parallel print
configurable various ways, IDE and SATA, both front and rear USB. It
makes a good doing the old and new machine, though I miss the 2nd floppy
and 5.25" floppy capability that is on my 2nd machine.
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/DP965LT/DP965LT-overview.htm

Hasan Khan wrote:
> Hi,
> I own a Velleman PCS500 scope (http://www.vellemanusa.com/us/enu/product/view/?id=351379).  It connects to a PC via the parallel printer port.  I bought it four years back for $500...expensive for hobby use. It had been serving well until I upgraded my PC which doesn't have parallel printer port and has USB ports.  As it seemed obvious, I also bought a USB-Parrallel port adapter for the scope.  It didn't work and the scope wouldn't communicate with it.  I bought another adapter and still no luck.
>
> Then I sent an email to Velleman tech support.  Man was I disappointed and pissed off with their response.  They basically said tough luck, their scope uses a propreitary protocol which works only with standard parallel ports and that they were not responsible for changes is PC hardware and that I should buy their new USB based scope ($500).  Why should I replace a perfectly good scope and that too because of a lousy port.  I was expecting at least some help from them on which adapter would work with their scope.  This is the second time a Euorpean company has screwed me.  Earlier I bought a UPS from a french company and their tech support was similar.
>
> Anyway, my question to the great folks of piclist is, what can I do about the USB-Parallel adapter?  Thanks.
>
>  

2008\12\16@112639 by Clint Sharp

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In message <spam_OUT607826.60149.qmTakeThisOuTspamweb1105.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com>, Hasan Khan
<.....hasanKILLspamspam@spam@khansden.com> writes
>  This is the second time a Euorpean company has screwed me.
Well, it is kind of your responsibility to make sure the PC you buy is
compatible with your existing hardware although i agree, maybe they
could have been a bit gentler.
> Earlier I bought a UPS from a french company and their tech support
>was similar.
>
>Anyway, my question to the great folks of piclist is, what can I do
>about the USB-Parallel adapter?  Thanks.
>
If it's a desktop machine, buy a PCI parallel port card. Trivial to
install and should be fairly cheap as well. You might even be able to
find one with real serial ports on it. Alternatively, if it's a laptop,
you used to be able to buy parallel port PCMCIA cards, I'm note sure if
you can buy a parallel port card in the new small form that laptops use
though.
--
Clint Sharp

2008\12\16@121211 by Michael Hagen

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I bought a new computer without a parallel port or serial port, so for less
than $15 I found a PCI card for the computer that had an old parallel port
and RS232 serial port.  MWAVE has this 2 Serial and One Parallel for under
$15?  Do you have some spare slots in your new PC?

I have a Velleman Hand Held Scope, never got the PC software to work?



Use Google to search for them.

Mwave Part Number: AA52980


Mike


2008\12\16@122120 by Carl Denk

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Yes, both PCI and PCI-E, and I forgot, there is a 4 port RS-232 Startech
card there also. :)

Michael Hagen wrote:
>  Do you have some spare slots in your new PC?
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>  

2008\12\16@140153 by Hasan Khan

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Thanks for replying everyone.

Currently I am working with two PC's.  Now I do most of my electronics work on my old PC since it has the parallel port.  The new PC is used for other work.  I have a KVM switch between them share keyboard, mouse and video.  I keep switching between the two PCs as needed.  I will also try out a VNC.





>I bought a new computer without a parallel port or serial port, so for less
>than $15 I found a PCI card for the computer that had an old parallel port
>and RS232 serial port.  MWAVE has this 2 Serial and One Parallel for under
>$15?  Do you have some spare slots in your new PC?

I do have spare PCI slots and I have tried a PCI parallel port card with no luck.  It wasn't the one you said.

-Hasan

2008\12\17@070222 by KPL

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If you have another display too, look at software named synergy:
http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
It was fun to use since it was possible to work on two PC's
side-by-side using a single keyboard and mouse.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Hasan Khan <hasanspamKILLspamkhansden.com> wrote:
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