>I agree with your basic point, Dave, but there is a distinction
>between a finite lumped-element model and a real transmission-line
>model. The former has no true delay since it has a finite number of
>poles whereas the latter has a true delay. I think it is likely in
>this case that Mario could determine which kind of effect he is seeing
>by looking at the timing of the voltage overshoot versus the rising
>edge to see if it corresponds to the expected propagation delay. Also,
>if he arranges the wires in a well-defined rectangular loop, then he
>could use an inductance formula to estimate the inductance of the
>wires and construct a physically-small lumped-element circuit which
>provides the same inductance and the same capacitance and see if he
>gets the same effect.
>
>Sean
>
>
>On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Dave Tweed <
.....picKILLspam@spam@dtweed.com> wrote:
>> Short answer: Yes.
>>
>> Longer answer: A transmission line is simply a pair of conductors with
>> distributed inductance and capacitance, so in the end, you really have to
>> consider the lumped effects and the distributed effects together.
>>