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'[EE] Stepper motor as an encoder - andaccidentalmi'
2008\11\07@160325 by Jinx

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> power the windings

I'm imagining perfect results already ! Will try your suggestions
today and report back

Funny how projects develop. Sometimes they go in the Too Hard
basket and are abandoned, sometimes pride and curiosity takes
over and you just have to keep picking away

2008\11\07@190910 by Jinx

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> 2. Power one winding, measure back emf on it, and use your current
> method for the other winding.  At a minimum it increases cogging,
> which means individual steps will happen more quickly and thus emit
> sharper pulses

Adam, works beautifully. I powered one winding with 5V via an 820
ohm resistor and captured the wave from the other winding. This power
level is ample to introduce enough detent for even the pedantically slow

Your thought about cogging hit the snail on the head. I'd been thinking
along those lines myself, but mechanically, forgetting that the very simplest
way was right in front of me

Here's a comparison

http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/pdg_slow.gif

Top trace is unpowered, bottom is powered, on the same scale

Additionally, the waveform on the powered coil is a lovely sinusoidal
series of positive peaks that can go straight into a comparator. Would
rather not try to capture that with the soundcard at this stage but will do
at some time or my records. With both coils powered, signals from each
are so clean and useable with minimal processing. The noise and bounce
has gone and the motor is much less sensitive to vibration

Thanks for kicking the day off on a positive note !!!

2008\11\08@023933 by Jinx

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Adam,

http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/stepper_as_encoder.gif

still looking at optimisation but it's pretty solid already

Thanks again for the suggestion

2008\11\08@031154 by Michael Algernon

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> On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:37 AM, Jinx wrote:
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> Adam,
>
> http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/stepper_as_encoder.gif
>
> still looking at optimisation but it's pretty solid already
>
> Thanks again for the suggestion

So the BAT46 passes positive going pulses and feeds them to a  
differentiator* which then feeds them to a variable ( pot based )  
threshold comparator.  With no rotation A and B output should be zero  
volts.  47n and 100K are an RC time constant of 4.7 msec.  Where does  
the 150 msec come from ? Did I miss something ?

*http://www.ecircuitcenter.com/Circuits/opdfr/opdfr.htm

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2008\11\08@091819 by M. Adam Davis
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I'm glad it's working!  If it's ok with you, I'd like to do a little
writeup of it on my website.  If not, I'll mention it and put links to
your website (I've had people ask me before about using steppers as
encoders).

-Adam

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Jinx <spam_OUTjoecolquittTakeThisOuTspamclear.net.nz> wrote:
> Adam,
>
> http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/stepper_as_encoder.gif
>
> still looking at optimisation but it's pretty solid already
>
> Thanks again for the suggestion
>
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