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'[EE] Single board computers for embedded applicati'
2011\12\26@010635 by V G

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HI all, I am designing a product which makes use of a single board
computer and has the following requirements:

Ex: Beagleboard is a pretty good example to start with
- Can run Linux, similar specifications to the Beagleboard XM (doesn't
need to be particularly powerful), mono/stereo audio input (for
recording audio), ethernet.

Things that the Beagleboard XM does not come with that I would like:
- I would ideally like to find a unit that comes with onboard wifi.
- A unit with a case would be nice.
- Extra onboard audio stuff would be great (amplifier, volume control,
audio line distributor, things like that).
- I will be using maybe a 100 of these devices, so a lower cost than
the $150 beagleboard would be nice, but is not a top priority

Can anyone recommend anything else

2011\12\26@012241 by Joe P. Farr

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How about a Raspberry Pi PC as a possible starting point.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16316439

No idea what hardware it's got on-board but it's certainly cheap (around
$25) and runs Linux.


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2011\12\26@014311 by V G

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Joe P. Farr <spam_OUTjoe.farrTakeThisOuTspamkcsl.uk.com> wrote:
> How about a Raspberry Pi PC as a possible starting point.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16316439
>
> No idea what hardware it's got on-board but it's certainly cheap (around
> $25) and runs Linux.

I've already looked at that and it's okay, but I don't really want to
add a hub and a USB audio device and then my recording input. I like
how the Beagleboard just as audio jacks for audio in

2011\12\26@044942 by cdb

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::Things that the Beagleboard XM does not come with that I would like:
::- I would ideally like to find a unit that comes with onboard wifi.
::- A unit with a case would be nice.
::- Extra onboard audio stuff would be great (amplifier, volume control,
::audio line distributor, things like that).

Whilst the main board isn't Linux (it's C#) some of the add on boards might work for you.

I've just purchased (FEZ Panda II) one of these to play with - http://www.ghielectronics.com

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2011\12\26@094855 by V G

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Please excuse the untrimmed post.

Unfortunately, that will not do :( I need to be able to run a full
operating system on there and be able to attach mass storage devices as
well as do things like run cron jobs. I can't think of a better way than a
single board computer with Linux or QNX.

On Monday, 26 December 2011, cdb <colinspamKILLspambtech-online.co.uk> wrote:
> ::Things that the Beagleboard XM does not come with that I would like:
> ::- I would ideally like to find a unit that comes with onboard wifi.
> ::- A unit with a case would be nice.
> ::- Extra onboard audio stuff would be great (amplifier, volume control,
> ::audio line distributor, things like that).
>
> Whilst the main board isn't Linux (it's C#) some of the add on boards
might
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2011\12\26@105903 by Marc Nicholas

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 9:48 AM, V G <EraseMEx.solarwind.xspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:

> Please excuse the untrimmed post.
>
> Unfortunately, that will not do :( I need to be able to run a full
> operating system on there and be able to attach mass storage devices as
> well as do things like run cron jobs. I can't think of a better way than a
> single board computer with Linux or QNX.


Gumstix Verdex Pro with Audiostix and Wifi module?

http://www.gumstix.com

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2011\12\26@133245 by fred jones

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Did you look at all the different boards Mikroelektronika offers?
They have some pretty cool development boards with multimedia capabilities.
http://www.mikroe.com

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2011\12\26@134419 by V G

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 1:32 PM, fred jones <KILLspamboattowKILLspamspamhotmail.com> wrote:
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> Did you look at all the different boards Mikroelektronika offers?
> They have some pretty cool development boards with multimedia capabilities.
> http://www.mikroe.com

I'm looking more for a single board computer deployable field unit.
Something like the Beagleboard that I can bolt down in a case and
prevent people from stepping on it, stealing it, knocking it over,
things like that. That's why integrated  wifi would be nice

2011\12\26@144544 by Mark Hanchey

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On 12/26/2011 1:06 AM, V G wrote:
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> Can anyone recommend anything else?
The renesas RX line of chips can do what you describe. The price for the boards themselves is $99 and that includes:
onboard ethernet, lcd display, audio codecs, amplifiers, line out jacks, protected serial ports, sdcard slots, usb host support, and builtin jtag debugger and also phase change memory. To add wifi the modules cost about $40 that just plug into an expansion header on the board.  The boards support RTOS either from micrium or free rtos.  There is also an onboard temperature probe and accelerometer, few pushbuttons and some leds.

I have had one of the board for a couple months and it can be online with wifi in minutes. The segger debugger it has built into the board is one of the best setups I ever used.
http://am.renesas.com/products/tools/introductory_evaluation_tools/renesas_demo_kits/yrdkrx62n/yrdkrx62n.jsp

2011\12\26@174641 by V G

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Mark Hanchey <RemoveMEmarkTakeThisOuTspampixeltrickery.com> wrote:
> The renesas RX line of chips can do what you describe. The price for the
> boards themselves is $99 and that includes:
> onboard ethernet, lcd display, audio codecs, amplifiers, line out jacks,
> protected serial ports, sdcard slots, usb host support, and builtin jtag
> debugger and also phase change memory. To add wifi the modules cost
> about $40 that just plug into an expansion header on the board.  The
> boards support RTOS either from micrium or free rtos.  There is also an
> onboard temperature probe and accelerometer, few pushbuttons and some leds.
>
> I have had one of the board for a couple months and it can be online
> with wifi in minutes. The segger debugger it has built into the board is
> one of the best setups I ever used.
> http://am.renesas.com/products/tools/introductory_evaluation_tools/renesas_demo_kits/yrdkrx62n/yrdkrx62n.jsp

Thanks for the suggestion. While that would be nice for many projects,
it is unsuitable for my purpose. I really need to be able to run Linux
or QNX for other functions like FTP and other higher level protocols
that will be a pain to get working on a micro controller system.

2011\12\26@174740 by V G

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So far, the only suitable suggestion has been the gumstix, but I would
still much rather use a Beaglboard and a USB wifi stick

2011\12\26@185015 by M.L.

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On 26 December 2011 17:47, V G <spamBeGonex.solarwind.xspamBeGonespamgmail.com> wrote:
> So far, the only suitable suggestion has been the gumstix, but I would
> still much rather use a Beaglboard and a USB wifi stick.

http://bit.ly/vTe46E
www.compulab.co.il/a510/html/a510-cm-datasheet.htm
http://soekris.com/products/net4501-1.html
http://www.plugcomputer.org/
http://www.pc104.org/
http://www.neutronusa.com/prod.cfm/914094/glb
http://www.mini-box.com/site/index.html



-- Martin K

2011\12\26@190437 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 6:47 AM, V G <TakeThisOuTx.solarwind.xEraseMEspamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:
> So far, the only suitable suggestion has been the gumstix, but I would
> still much rather use a Beaglboard and a USB wifi stick.

How about a Netbook or a cheap Android tablet? :-)

This website may offer some good info for you.
http://www.linuxfordevices.com/

-- Xiaofa

2011\12\26@202907 by V G

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Xiaofan Chen <RemoveMExiaofancspamTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:
> How about a Netbook or a cheap Android tablet? :-)
>
> This website may offer some good info for you.
> http://www.linuxfordevices.com/

Oh wow that totally slipped my mind. Thank you

2011\12\27@052832 by David

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On 26/12/2011 06:06, V G wrote:
> HI all, I am designing a product which makes use of a single board
> computer and has the following requirements:
> ..
> Can anyone recommend anything else?

Take a look through: http://linitx.com/category/113/113

I have an Alix board in a nice little metal enclosure.  Wifi can be added, some have multiple network ports.  Mine runs Debian off a 4GB compact flash card.

They are not the fastest little beasts but cope well as a sensor data receiver.  If I remember right they actually have I2C on board, I've not used that.

Davi

2011\12\28@114533 by M.L.

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On 26 December 2011 01:06, V G <x.solarwind.xEraseMEspam.....gmail.com> wrote:

> Things that the Beagleboard XM does not come with that I would like:
> - I would ideally like to find a unit that comes with onboard wifi.
> - A unit with a case would be nice.
> - Extra onboard audio stuff would be great (amplifier, volume control,
> audio line distributor, things like that).
> - I will be using maybe a 100 of these devices, so a lower cost than
> the $150 beagleboard would be nice, but is not a top priority
>
> Can anyone recommend anything else?

This board has audio:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pandaboard_es&num=1

Onboard WiFi is probably unobtainable. The soekris boards I previously
linked to have expansion slots which take standard OTS laptop WiFi
cards. USB audio devices are quite cheap.

-- Martin K

2011\12\29@001719 by V G

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Thanks to everyone for the replies. I think I've found my unit - the
DreamPlug http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-dreamplugdetails.aspx

Has everything I need in a nice perfect package and cost


'[EE] Single board computers for embedded applicati'
2012\01\10@194634 by William \Chops\ Westfield
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On Dec 25, 2011, at 10:06 PM, V G wrote:

> Things that the Beagleboard XM does not come with that I would like:
> - I would ideally like to find a unit that comes with onboard wifi.

I think most of this class of computer is doing wifi via USB modules, even in the case where the wifi is built in.  (eg "Chumby.")

> - A unit with a case would be nice.

Have you considered the extra-tiny (PICO-ITX/etc) x86 systems like the VIA "Artigo"?  Well over your desired price point, but includes case, power supply, and other niceties.

There is "Beaglebone", a stripped-down BeagleBoard (except that audio seems to be one of the things that was stripped.  Note that a USB audio device is cheap...)
http://www.adafruit.com/category/75

And "Chumnby", including the "Chumby Hacker Board."
https://www.adafruit.com/products/278
My main complaint is that the "hacker board" is more expensive than full chumbies (which include case, display, wireless, powersupply, etc), if you get them when they're on sale.  If they're still for sale :-(

Larger PIC32 chips are running 2.10bsd - would that count?

BillW

2012\01\10@204322 by V G

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On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:46 PM, William "Chops" Westfield
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I found exactly what I need:

http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-41-dreamplug-devkit.aspx

2012\01\10@205915 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Dec 28, 2011, at 9:17 PM, V G wrote:

> Thanks to everyone for the replies. I think I've found my unit - the
> DreamPlug http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-dreamplugdetails.aspx

Where did you actually find them for sale at "perfect cost"?

The whole Marvell-based "plug computing" spans quite a spectrum these days;
See "sheevaplug", "pogoplug", etc.  (Most don't have audio.)  Pink pogoplugs have recently been on sale for less than $25: http://dealmac.com/Pogoplug-Multimedia-Sharing-Device-for-22-free-shipping/537741.html ) (though that's probably because it's an older version...)

BillW

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