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'[EE] Raspberry Pi challengers'
2012\05\23@110747 by alan.b.pearce

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Looks like the Raspberry Pi market is garnering more challengers ...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18163419


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2012\05\23@112433 by M.L.

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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:07 AM,  <spam_OUTalan.b.pearceTakeThisOuTspamstfc.ac.uk> wrote:
> Looks like the Raspberry Pi market is garnering more challengers ...
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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18163419
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That is interesting. Android is probably easier for newbies to write
GUI applications, given the highly integrated virtual machine +
development environment.

QT Creator is also quite interesting which I'm sure could be used
effectively for raspberry pi application development.

-- Martin K

2012\05\23@121646 by RussellMc

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> > Looks like the Raspberry Pi market is garnering more challengers ...
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VIA APC image attached.
720p against RP's 1080p.

More useful than some article here

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/VIA-launches-Android-PC-mini-ARM-based-system-1582805.html

Then there's

RP
www.h-online.com/open/news/item/The-Raspberry-Pi-goes-into-production-1412886.html
PandaBoard       http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/PandaBoard
Cotton Candy
www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Cotton-Candy-ready-to-be-pre-ordered-runs-Ubuntu-and-Android-4-0-1445613.html
Trim Slice
www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fanless-3-watt-PC-with-Dual-Core-ARM-CPU-HDMI-and-Linux-1177240.html
TizzBird
armdevices.net/2012/03/06/valueplus-tizzbird-stick-n1/
Mk802
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/MK802-micro-PC-runs-Android-4-0-and-Linux-for-74-1578994.html

Marvell ICs
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Marvell-chips-for-plug-top-computers-740237.html

APC comment :    Lots similar.

www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2404770,00.asp
www.engadget.com/2012/05/22/via-technologies-outs-49-apc-android-barebones/
www.guru3d.com/news/via-apc-is-a-49-android-pc-/
www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2179149/announces-usd49-apc-android-targeting-raspberry-pi
http://liliputing.com/2012/05/via-apc-a-49-android-computer-with-an-arm11-cpu.html

www.theverge.com/2012/5/22/3036745/via-apc-android-computer-announced
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Russell


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2012\05\23@135654 by jana1972

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But Raspberry PI is based on Broadcom - closed system.
And if I understood well  those  systems described at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18163419
are based  on ARM .
If it is true, I think they will be more successful than Raspberry PI.
I think Raspberry PI is sold cheap so no big money for  advertising. Besides Broadcom does not open completely datasheets for the develepers.
My guess is that there will be less developers with PI. And having good application is very important for users




> Looks like the Raspberry Pi market is garnering more challengers ...
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2012\05\23@144443 by Wouter van Ooijen

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On 23/5/2012 7:56 PM, .....jana1972KILLspamspam@spam@centrum.cz wrote:
> But Raspberry PI is based on Broadcom - closed system.
> And if I understood well  those  systems
> described at
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18163419
> are based  on ARM .

The ARM part of the broadcom chip is as open as it can be. The video part is not, so the q2uation would be whether the video chip of that board is fully and openly documented.

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2012\05\23@145410 by Chris McSweeny

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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:56 PM,  <jana1972spamKILLspamcentrum.cz> wrote:
> But Raspberry PI is based on Broadcom - closed system.
> And if I understood well  those  systems
> described at
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18163419
> are based  on ARM .
> If it is true, I think they will be more successful than Raspberry PI.

Did you read the bit where it said all 3 are based on ARM? The
Broadcom chip has an ARM processor, and I see nothing to suggest that
the other two systems are any more likely to be completely open than
RPi is.

I still don't get what the big deal is - with RPi you can develop apps
based on Linux, with the other two apps based on Android. You don't
need to have details of all the nuts and bolts underneath - if you do
then maybe you need to get something different. Personally my
experience of these platforms leads me to think that developing for
RPi will be a huge amount simpler.

Chris

2012\05\23@161613 by Ruben Jönsson

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So, if it is Android based, does it include an RTC (unlike the RPi)? I didn't see a battery.

A VGA connector is also a big plus, I think.

/Ruben


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2012\05\24@082002 by Mark Hanchey
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On 5/23/2012 12:16 PM, RussellMc wrote:
>>> Looks like the Raspberry Pi market is garnering more challengers ...
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Close up pic of the board is here:
http://www.viagallery.com/Downloadimage.aspx?name=APC%20-%20Top.jpg&cat=5 <http://www.viagallery.com/Downloadimage.aspx?name=APC%20-%20Top.jpg&cat=5>

Chip is wondermedia WM8750
http://www.wondermedia.com.tw/en/products/platform/soc/wm8750/

Sadly wondermedia is about as open as Broadcom about information.

Mark


'[EE] Raspberry Pi challengers'
2012\07\16@093842 by Tamas Rudnai
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Odroid is a quad core ARM device with 1G RAM for $129, capable of running
the latest Ubuntu or Android:

http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931

Tamas


On 24 May 2012 05:20, Mark Hanchey <EraseMEmarkspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTpixeltrickery.com> wrote:

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'[EE] Raspberry Pi challengers'
2012\09\14@043541 by RussellMc
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New, I think.
Head spins.


Linux capable + the usual + 1080p + SATA + ... :-) $US49 - $100 range
deep ending.


http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/262009/two_more_tiny_sub100_linux_pcs_join_the_fray.html

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Two more tiny, sub-$100 Linux PCs join the fray
By Katherine Noyes, PCWorld

There seems to be no end in sight to the march of the tiny, sub-$100
Linux PCs arriving on the market this year, and recently two more
contenders were added to the mix.

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It was only a few weeks ago that I wrote about the Oval Elephant and
the Mini X, both of which added fresh diversity to a landscape that
already included the Raspberry Pi, the Cotton Candy, the Mele 1000,
and the MK802, among others.

Now, there are two more to consider: the $49 Cubieboard and the $89 UG802.

Intrigued? Then read on.

The Cubieboard

With a price tag that nearly rivals that of the Raspberry Pi, the $49
Cubieboard features a 1GHz AllWinner A10 Cortex A8 ARM processor, Mali
400 graphics, and 1GB of DDR3 RAM.


The $49 Cubieboard
HDMI 1080p output is part of the package as well, as are 100M
Ethernet, 4GB Nand Flash, two USB hosts, one MMC slot, an IR sensor,
and a SATA port. Perhaps best of all, the device can run Android,
Ubuntu, or a variety of other Linux distributions.

Combine the Cubieboard with a USB keyboard and mouse and output to a
monitor via HDMI and you've got a small PC. Alternatively, load
Android Ice Cream Sandwich and switch the HDMI output to a TV, and
you've got an Android TV. With SATA and 100M Ethernet, meanwhile, the
device can serve as a Network Attached Storage system.

For just $49, it would be hard to go wrong.

The UG802

Similar in many ways to a faster version of the MK802, meanwhile, the
UG802 is a diminutive PC-on-a-stick powered by a Rockchip RK3066
Cortex A9 dual-core ARM processor, according to a Liliputing report.

Also featuring Mali 400 graphics, the device reportedly offers 1GB of
DDR3 RAM, 4GB of storage, USB ports, a microSD card slot, and an HDMI
connector allowing the device to be plugged directly into a display.

Running the $89 UG802 by default is Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich;
access to the Google Play Store is reportedly included.

The video below shows the device in action. South African distributor
Reno Botes--who narrates the video--also sells the device

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