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'[EE] Neve audio (was Creepage clearance)'
2010\07\20@193137 by Dwayne Reid

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I have to confess that I never had an opportunity to do any real
'blind' testing.

The radio station that I was working at during part of that time had
3 studios, each with its own console.  Two of those were older
McCurdy broadcast consoles, the newest one (my first console
installation) was a real production console, suitable for recording
live sessions.  The two older consoles were eventually replaced, also
with McCurdy production consoles.  Then we put the latest and
greatest McCurdy production console into the main production room.  A
couple of years after that, we moved the studios to a new
building.  3 Brand-new McCurdy consoles went into the new
studios.  All in all, I helped install 7 consoles during my time
there.  Yeah - I guess you could say that we LIKED McCurdy consoles <grin>.

I also spent a fair amount of time at other radio stations, helping
troubleshoot problems with gear.  Thus my exposure to other
brands.  But that was all radio stuff back then - I didn't get
involved with television until many years later.

I started doing work at what was the largest recording studio in the
city at about the same time as I was doing all the radio stuff.  The
recording studio owners had made a bunch of money from a couple of
hit records and were investing in the brand-spanking new Neve that I
eventually got to know REALLY well.

I guess that what I'm saying is that it was kind of an 'apples and
oranges' deal.  The production consoles at the radio stations were
really nice but the mic preamps never did sound as good as the mic
preamps in the Neve consoles (both the old Neve and the new
one).  But - subtle differences.  I was able to use the same Neuman
microphone type when comparing preamps but the power amplifiers and
speakers were completely different: the recording studio had Urei
time-aligned speakers and a serious power amplifier, the radio
station was using JBL speakers (I don't recall what the power amps were).

I did a bunch of listening tests with headphones to help eliminate
the differences in the speakers and amps, though.

The differences were subtle.  Listening to just air tone was most
revealing - the Neve console sounded just as if you were in the room,
but with super-sensitive ears.  Everything just sounded 'right'.

dwayne


At 09:31 AM 7/20/2010, Sean Breheny wrote:
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2010\07\20@200447 by Bob Blick

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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:31:36 -0600, "Dwayne Reid" said:
> I have to confess that I never had an opportunity to do any real
> 'blind' testing.

One thing I decided is that some people have amazing ears. I used to
have pretty good ears, but some people have fantastic ears.

And when it comes to high fidelity, electronic analysis beyond a certain
point is useless.

So I gave up trying to measure quality. I learned to trust the guys with
the good ears.

Like Dwayne, I used to work in radio and recording, but it was many many
years ago. API consoles were popular, and consoles that used API
components, and they used discrete opamps:

http://www.waltzingbear.com/Schematics/API/API_2520.htm

Cheers,

Bob



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2010\07\20@212935 by enkitec

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On 20-Jul-10 21:04, Bob Blick wrote:
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> Like Dwayne, I used to work in radio and recording, but it was many many
> years ago. API consoles were popular, and consoles that used API
> components, and they used discrete opamps:
>
> http://www.waltzingbear.com/Schematics/API/API_2520.htm
>
>    

    It seems the JE-990 is famous, too:

    http://www.johnhardyco.com/990OpAmpDetails.html

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