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'[EE] Manhattan style construction'
2008\04\08@154057 by James Newton

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I've added a little photo essay page to the site showing the very basics of
"Manhattan" style construction:

http://www.piclist.com/techref/pcb/manhattan.htm

I would love to get some feedback, updates, further expansion, or ideas.
Thanks to chuck adams, k7qo and Carel, na5n for permission to use their
photographs.

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2008\04\08@162943 by Byron Jeff

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On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 03:40:28PM -0400, James Newton wrote:
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> I've added a little photo essay page to the site showing the very basics of
> "Manhattan" style construction:
>
> www.piclist.com/techref/pcb/manhattan.htm
>
> I would love to get some feedback, updates, further expansion, or ideas.
> Thanks to chuck adams, k7qo and Carel, na5n for permission to use their
> photographs.

On quick typo I saw. Super glue is spelled with only one 'p'.

Great page.

BAJ

2008\04\08@164455 by David VanHorn

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> On quick typo I saw. Super glue is spelled with only one 'p'.

I dunno.. I've had poi, that's "supper glue"  :)

2008\04\08@164701 by Bob Blick

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On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:29:38 +0000, "Byron Jeff" <.....byronjeffKILLspamspam@spam@clayton.edu>
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> On quick typo I saw. Super glue is spelled with only one 'p'.
>

Not if you make a meal out of it!

I really hate the way super glue smoke feels in the eyes - so I don't
use it on anything I will be soldering. Epoxy is bad enough. Especially
with the extra heat of lead-free, though that is still the distant
future for me when applied to prototyping.

Cheerful regards,

Bob

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2008\04\08@164806 by John Gardner

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Bob Pease had some interesting breadboard techniques.

Wish I could find the links...

Jack

On 4/8/08, James Newton <jamesnewtonspamKILLspammassmind.org> wrote:
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2008\04\08@170558 by David VanHorn

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On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:48 PM, John Gardner <EraseMEgoflo3spam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:
> Bob Pease had some interesting breadboard techniques.
>
> Wish I could find the links...

Usually his stuff is all under http://www.national.com/rap

2008\04\08@171550 by John Gardner

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> Usually his stuff is all under http://www.national.com/rap

thanks.

On 4/8/08, David VanHorn <microbrixspamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:48 PM, John Gardner <@spam@goflo3KILLspamspamgmail.com> wrote:
> > Bob Pease had some interesting breadboard techniques.
> >
> > Wish I could find the links...
>
> Usually his stuff is all under http://www.national.com/rap
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2008\04\08@172915 by Jinx

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> On quick typo I saw. Super glue is spelled with only one 'p'.

No-on is above typos Byrone ;-)

> Great page.

Nice one

I can't help feeling that some techniques be reserved for something
really deserving, like 3D displays (and RF circuits seem to ring a
bell)

Google around for eg dead bug circuit

http://inklesspress.com/robot_art.htm



2008\04\08@175025 by Andre Abelian

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Very good idea to use gluing technique when need it but making whole
board I do not thing there is enough time for that. By the time we build it
it will be time to modify. Specially making pcb's are cheap now. Again
I like the gluing technique. Good job

Andre



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2008\04\08@180801 by James Newton

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I can't seem to find anything on Mr. Pease's site about it... Any idea what
keywords or URL's to look for?

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On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:48 PM, John Gardner <spamBeGonegoflo3spamBeGonespamgmail.com> wrote:
> Bob Pease had some interesting breadboard techniques.
>
> Wish I could find the links...

Usually his stuff is all under http://www.national.com/rap

2008\04\08@181615 by Bob Blick

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I thought it was Jim Williams from Linear Technology who dod all the
cool high speed prototyping with raw doublesided PC board.

Cheers,

Bob

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 15:07:36 -0700, "James Newton"
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> I can't seem to find anything on Mr. Pease's site about it... Any idea
> what
> keywords or URL's to look for?
>
> --
> James.
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2008\04\08@181657 by Peter Todd

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On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 01:46:36PM -0700, Bob Blick wrote:
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Solder paste might work instead of super glue. Put a generous dab of
paste underneath and heat from the sides. The biggest problem would
likely be getting enough heat to the paste, but beats super glue fumes.

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2008\04\08@182142 by John Gardner

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IIRC there were a number of "What's All This <Whatever> Stuff"
articles which discussed down & dirty prototyping. They redid
the site & I have'nt been able to find them - Some were quite a
while back, 90-ish maybe.

Basically dead-bug style w/ copper ground plane - Unlovely
but worked well enough, apparently.

On 4/8/08, James Newton <jamesnewtonEraseMEspam.....massmind.org> wrote:
> I can't seem to find anything on Mr. Pease's site about it... Any idea what
> keywords or URL's to look for?
>
> --
> James.
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> {Original Message removed}

2008\04\08@182553 by David VanHorn

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On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:07 PM, James Newton <EraseMEjamesnewtonspammassmind.org> wrote:
> I can't seem to find anything on Mr. Pease's site about it... Any idea what
> keywords or URL's to look for?

I didn't see anything there either, and it does seem to be an
aggressively undermaintained site.

2008\04\08@191551 by Harold Hallikainen

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Another spelling issue... I believe it should be "bus bars" instead of
"buss bars." See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buss .

On prototyping in general... I'm tending to go directly to prototype
circuit boards. They are pretty inexpensive (something like 3/$99 from
Advanced Circuits for 2 layer). I can then hack those up to fix my
mistakes. Most mistakes seem to be component values in analog circuits.
Hand wired prototypes seem to fall apart as I add one more wire to some
component. I spend more time debugging the wiring than the circuit. Also,
if this is something destined for production, at some point we're going to
need to do schematic capture and board layout anyway. May as well start
early.

My thoughts, anyway...

Harold



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2008\04\08@192246 by Jack Smith

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I have a web page at http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Prototyping.htm
with Manhattan-style construction, as well a few other techniques I've
developed.

Jack



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2008\04\08@194555 by John Gardner

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> I thought it was Jim Williams from Linear Technology who dod all the
> cool high speed prototyping with raw doublesided PC board.

Yes, that's right! Very cool looking stuff. Maybe I can find that ...

thanks, Jack


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2008\04\08@211927 by David VanHorn

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On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:45 PM, John Gardner <EraseMEgoflo3spamspamspamBeGonegmail.com> wrote:
> > I thought it was Jim Williams from Linear Technology who dod all the
>  > cool high speed prototyping with raw doublesided PC board.
>
>  Yes, that's right! Very cool looking stuff. Maybe I can find that ...

I'd like to see his equation for ripple current vs lifetime (plus a
lot of other parameters) in electrolytics again.
I used it for a very unusual SMPS design, but I haven't been able to
locate it for a while.

2008\04\08@223330 by John Gardner

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On 4/8/08, David VanHorn <RemoveMEmicrobrixKILLspamspamgmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:45 PM, John Gardner <goflo3STOPspamspamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:
> > > I thought it was Jim Williams from Linear Technology who dod all the
> >  > cool high speed prototyping with raw doublesided PC board.
> >
> >  Yes, that's right! Very cool looking stuff. Maybe I can find that ...
>
> I'd like to see his equation for ripple current vs lifetime (plus a
> lot of other parameters) in electrolytics again.
> I used it for a very unusual SMPS design, but I haven't been able to
> locate it for a while.
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2008\04\08@224335 by Jinx

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> > Super glue is spelled with only one 'p'.

> Not if you make a meal out of it!

It's what my mother calls 'gravy'........

2008\04\08@231244 by John Gardner

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Damn hippies...

On 4/8/08, Jinx <spamBeGonejoecolquittSTOPspamspamEraseMEclear.net.nz> wrote:
> > > Super glue is spelled with only one 'p'.
>
> > Not if you make a meal out of it!
>
> It's what my mother calls 'gravy'........
>
> -

2008\04\09@000512 by Jinx

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That's Mr Damn Hippy to you

> Damn hippies...
>
> On 4/8/08, Jinx <KILLspamjoecolquittspamBeGonespamclear.net.nz> wrote:
> > > > Super glue is spelled with only one 'p'.
> >
> > > Not if you make a meal out of it!
> >
> > It's what my mother calls 'gravy'........


2008\04\09@015308 by KPL

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"cheap" has different meanings in different parts of the world and for
different people. I haven't made/bought any real pcb in years now.

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Andre Abelian
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2008\04\09@042537 by Jeff Stevens

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On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 13:46 -0700, Bob Blick wrote:

> I really hate the way super glue smoke feels in the eyes - so I don't
> use it on anything I will be soldering. Epoxy is bad enough. Especially
> with the extra heat of lead-free, though that is still the distant
> future for me when applied to prototyping.

Interesting.  I haven't noticed any superglue "smoke" building Manhattan
style.  I even use Sn96/Ag3/Cu1 at 750 degrees F.

-Jeff

2008\04\09@045736 by Apptech

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>> I really hate the way super glue smoke feels in the
>> eyes -

May well be a cyanide compound.

> Interesting.  I haven't noticed any superglue "smoke"
> building Manhattan
> style.  I even use Sn96/Ag3/Cu1 at 750 degrees F.



       Russell

2008\04\09@123402 by John Ferrell

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Hot melt glue (use shavings) works OK if you are fast...

John Ferrell    W8CCW

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nothing." -- Edmund Burke
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