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2006\03\07@190037 by Will

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Hi,
I want to use Eagle to draw my schematic. When ever I need to connect to
a signal, for example GND, I want to place the GND as close as possible
to the component, like in the schematics from microchip. This means that
I need to be able to have many GND symbols but that they should all
be the same net. Aparently Eagle does not let me do this. Is this right?
Will

2006\03\07@192135 by Josh Koffman

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On 3/7/06, Will <spam_OUTkerri1111111TakeThisOuTspambtinternet.com> wrote:
> I want to use Eagle to draw my schematic. When ever I need to connect to
> a signal, for example GND, I want to place the GND as close as possible
> to the component, like in the schematics from microchip. This means that
> I need to be able to have many GND symbols but that they should all
> be the same net. Aparently Eagle does not let me do this. Is this right?

No, this is incorrect. With Eagle, as long as your nets have the same
name, they are connected, even if you don't draw a line representing
that. If your put in multiple ground symbols ensure that they have the
same net names. Then when you generate a board they should all show as
connected.

Josh
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2006\03\07@204409 by Will

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> > I want to use Eagle to draw my schematic. When ever I need to connect to
> > a signal, for example GND, I want to place the GND as close as possible
> > to the component, like in the schematics from microchip. This means that
> > I need to be able to have many GND symbols but that they should all
> > be the same net. Aparently Eagle does not let me do this. Is this right?
>
> No, this is incorrect. With Eagle, as long as your nets have the same
> name, they are connected, even if you don't draw a line representing
> that. If your put in multiple ground symbols ensure that they have the
> same net names. Then when you generate a board they should all show as
> connected.

I tried to add two gnd's, then eagle names them gnd1 and gnd2. If I try to
rename gnd2 to gnd1 it doesn't allow that?

2006\03\07@223720 by Josh Koffman

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On 3/7/06, Will <.....kerri1111111KILLspamspam@spam@btinternet.com> wrote:
> I tried to add two gnd's, then eagle names them gnd1 and gnd2. If I try to
> rename gnd2 to gnd1 it doesn't allow that?

Then you're likely trying to change the name of the ground symbol. You
need to change the name of the net by clicking on a wire not the
symbol.

Josh
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2006\03\08@070959 by olin piclist

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Will wrote:
> I want to use Eagle to draw my schematic. When ever I need to connect to
> a signal, for example GND, I want to place the GND as close as possible
> to the component, like in the schematics from microchip. This means that
> I need to be able to have many GND symbols but that they should all
> be the same net. Aparently Eagle does not let me do this. Is this right?

No.  Eagle most certainly lets you do this.

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2006\03\08@073624 by olin piclist

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Will wrote:
> I tried to add two gnd's, then eagle names them gnd1 and gnd2. If I try
> to rename gnd2 to gnd1 it doesn't allow that?

Your ground symbols are incorrectly made.  Go to
http://www.embedinc.com/pic/dload.htm and install the Eagle tools release.
After installation you will find proper ground symbols in
eagle/lib/Power.lib.


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2006\03\08@082230 by Will

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> > I tried to add two gnd's, then eagle names them gnd1 and gnd2. If I try
> > to rename gnd2 to gnd1 it doesn't allow that?
>
> Your ground symbols are incorrectly made.  Go to
> http://www.embedinc.com/pic/dload.htm and install the Eagle tools release.
> After installation you will find proper ground symbols in
> eagle/lib/Power.lib.

No, my gnd symbols are ok, someone suggested to rename the net rather
than the symbol, and it DID work this time, so it seems to be what I need.

2006\03\08@082800 by olin piclist
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Will wrote:
> No, my gnd symbols are ok, someone suggested to rename the net rather
> than the symbol, and it DID work this time, so it seems to be what I
> need.

If you use proper ground symbols they will automatically name the net for
you.  You shouldn't be manually renaming nets when using ground symbols.


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