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'[EE] Conversion of AC to DC using transformers'
2012\06\05@230700 by Mark Hanchey

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I was reading through some of the patents of Nikola Tesla and one of them is about converting AC to DC using transformers. The circuit consist o two transformers. The primaries of both transformers are connected in parallel to the AC source.  The secondaries are wired in series between the two transformers  and from that he produces the DC current .  I'm having a hard time understanding how this works to produce a DC current. The patent application explains it as using one force to oppose another to force the current on a specific path, but his comments are kind of hard to understand. Would appreciate some explanations if someone could.

The patent is # 413,353
http://www.google.com/patents/US413353
The circuit is pictured in figure 2.

Thanks
Mark Hanchey

2012\06\05@232417 by M. Adam Davis

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Note that in each case there is an opposing generator or potential.
In figure 2, for instance, there's a DC generator on H and H' that
produces the opposition.  Later diagams involve the use of moving
parts in order to use the AC to generate the DC required to oppose the
AC on each branch.

I can't say I fully understand it from the quick browse I did, but
it's not just using transformers - there is at least one other active
part in each diagram.

The text starts with the simple case in diagram one, and proceeds to
make a more complex change in each succeeding diagram until you get to
the last which, it appears, requires a rotating mechanical part, but
does not require commutators, forming a rotary transformer of sorts.

Interesting stuff, I just don't have the time - perhaps someone else
can explain it...

-Adam

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Mark Hanchey <spam_OUTmarkTakeThisOuTspampixeltrickery.com> wrote:
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2012\06\06@040108 by RussellMc

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The key requirement is (or seems to be) a voltage source which can
oppose an applied AC voltge on one half cycle and not do so on the
otherhalf cycle. It thi=]us actas as a "rectifier" by stopping current
flow in a selected circuit during one half cycle. The series element
must either pass DC with minimal loss when not opposing current flow
or be short-circuit-able every second half cycle or be able to be
bypassed in some manner.

A diode is, nowadays, liable to be easier and cheaper in many cases.



        Russel

2012\06\07@111123 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 11:06 PM 05/06/2012, you wrote:
>I was reading through some of the patents of Nikola Tesla and one of
>them is about converting AC to DC using transformers. The circuit
>consist o two transformers. The primaries of both transformers are
>connected in parallel to the AC source.  The secondaries are wired in
>series between the two transformers  and from that he produces the DC
>current .  I'm having a hard time understanding how this works to
>produce a DC current. The patent application explains it as using one
>force to oppose another to force the current on a specific path, but his
>comments are kind of hard to understand. Would appreciate some
>explanations if someone could.

I have not looked at it in great detail, but it looks like he's
using the nonlinear characteristics of the cores... sort of
like saturable reactors.

This kind of thing might have application even today, perhaps
at extremely low voltage and extremely high current (0.1V at
10,000A or something like that).



>The patent is # 413,353
>http://www.google.com/patents/US413353
>The circuit is pictured in figure 2.
>
>Thanks
>Mark Hanchey
>

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