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2008\04\03@121118 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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>> EP mode was VERY common, and pretty much universally compatible.  
>> It had
>> a recording time of 3X SP, so a 120 tape would record 6 hours, a  
>> 160, 8
>> hours. I've also heard of 10 hour tapes, but I felt that 160s were
>> already pushing tape thinness a little far.

We've got something like 4 VHS VCRs in our home, all recording  
"stuff" in 3x mode (what you call EP and some of the recorders call  
SLP.  Six hours per tape.)  Tapes move "ok" between machines (some  
loss of quality; especially: "audio sounds odd.")  We don't save  
anything; all those machines are for time-shifting.  Presumably, if  
"quality" were an issue, we wouldn't need 4 VCRs; no tape technology  
is capable of improving the quality of much of American Television!  
(I won't speak for other countries.)
A beta recorder with 2H recording capability would never have been a  
starter (the TIVO upgraded with a 300GB drive is nice, though!) (Of  
course, by the time I bought my first VCR, Beta was pretty much  
gone.  It's all my wife's fault.)

So Beta had higher "quality", but VHS had longer record time and  
lower prices.  Seems like there's room for a lot of argument on which  
was "better engineered."

BillW

2008\04\03@153817 by Alex Harford

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On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:05 AM, William Chops Westfield <spam_OUTwestfwTakeThisOuTspammac.com> wrote:
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>  We've got something like 4 VHS VCRs in our home, all recording
>  "stuff" in 3x mode (what you call EP and some of the recorders call
>  SLP.  Six hours per tape.)  Tapes move "ok" between machines (some
>  loss of quality; especially: "audio sounds odd.")  We don't save
>  anything; all those machines are for time-shifting.

Wow Bill, you need MythTV!    :)

http://www.mythtv.org

2008\04\03@155333 by Ray Newman

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Why don't you just use an old computer and a few tuners to it
and get better quality and very little wear & tear.
sagetv.com is what I use with 4 analog tuners and two HD tuners.
But there are others were software that is free as well.

I had 4 replaytv because I did not want to pay monthly fees of tivo.
But sold them when I switched to sagetv.
FAR better than tape any day of the week.

Ray

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2008\04\03@202402 by Jake Anderson

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Alex Harford wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:05 AM, William Chops Westfield <.....westfwKILLspamspam@spam@mac.com> wrote:
>  
>>  We've got something like 4 VHS VCRs in our home, all recording
>>  "stuff" in 3x mode (what you call EP and some of the recorders call
>>  SLP.  Six hours per tape.)  Tapes move "ok" between machines (some
>>  loss of quality; especially: "audio sounds odd.")  We don't save
>>  anything; all those machines are for time-shifting.
>>    
>
> Wow Bill, you need MythTV!    :)
>
> http://www.mythtv.org
>  
And how.
I make myth setups for friends and family, once they have used it they
never go back.
1x decent backend with a few tuners and a fair whack of hard drive (a
few 500gb drives will make myth happy and spread the load (w00t myth .21
upgrade a week ago all seems well except for a few load spikes, but that
might be vmwares fault)) stick that at your antenna and wireless/wired
lan out to some mini-itx diskless frontends for playback.

Nifty web interface and as a bonus it'll skip the commercials for you
with about 80%-90% accuracy and the only false positive it has is the
end of the simpsons :-<

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