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'[EE] Any Suggestions for My Board?'
2009\03\29@215903 by solarwind

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I'm going to start off with something simple to etch. It's just going
to be a simple board with a space for a 28 pin PIC, a 0.1 uF
capacitor, and a 6 pin ICSP header which the PICKIT2 can attach to.

Image: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6762/imagetdl.png

The inside set of pins will be for the PIC, the outside set of pins
will be for header pins that will plug directly into a breadboard for
easy prototyping.

If anyone has any suggestions for my board, I would greatly appreciate it.

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solarwind

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2009\03\29@223454 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Mar 29, 2009, at 6:59 PM, solarwind wrote:

> If anyone has any suggestions for my board, I would greatly  
> appreciate it.

See my "Instructable" on hobbyist design rules:
  http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-hobbyist-PCBs-with-professional-CAD-tools-by-/

Make your pads bigger.  Make your power supply traces bigger too.  
(shucks, make ALL your traces bigger.)  Your bypass cap should be  
closer to the supply pins.

This interferes with running traces between pins, which you've done  
twice (and at least once (on the left, between pin 1 and 2 of the ICSP  
connector) for no particularly good reason.  OTOH, this may be good  
practice...

It looks like the holes for your connector pins are the same size as  
those for the PIC and cap pins, which will result in "big" holes for  
the IC/cap (ok), or holes that are too small for the connector pins  
(less OK.)

BillW

2009\03\29@223750 by cdb

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:: I'm going to start off with something simple to etch. It's just
:: going
:: to be a simple board with a space for a 28 pin PIC, a 0.1 uF
:: capacitor, and a 6 pin ICSP header which the PICKIT2 can attach to.

If this is your first time ever for etching a PCB, you might want to
make your tracks a little wider where you can. This means that if you
get the etching time or developing time (if using photo transfer
method) slightly off and you get poor definition at the edge of the
tracks, you'll still have plenty of copper available to do the job.

Once you've sussed out temperature and time, then revert back to
standard tracks.

Colin
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Hi,

> The inside set of pins will be for the PIC, the outside set of pins
> will be for header pins that will plug directly into a breadboard for
> easy prototyping.

If you have the header being 300 mil wide, then you can plug this module
into the breadboard or the final target board.

The white connector is for ICSP/ICD and the blue DIP switch is to
isolate the RB6 and RB7 which may or may not be necessary.

See the attached picture.

Cheers

Ravi



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2009\03\30@034735 by Clint Sharp

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In message <.....a94764e0903291859x3b99a6ffuaed0b8550224551dKILLspamspam@spam@mail.gmail.com>,
solarwind <x.solarwind.xspamKILLspamgmail.com> writes
>I'm going to start off with something simple to etch. It's just going
>to be a simple board with a space for a 28 pin PIC, a 0.1 uF
>capacitor, and a 6 pin ICSP header which the PICKIT2 can attach to.
You're going to be using the internal oscillator on the PIC?

I'd add space for a crystal and associated capacitors. Move the 0.1uF
cap to the side of the PIC so it's immediately next to the chip with
negligible track length, route the ICSP traces so they don't have to
pass between IC pins.

Make the header pin holes larger.

 A few extra millimetres of board won't hurt (it's not being crammed
into a shuttle payload) and will make it *much* easier to achieve a
board that will etch reliably every time because you can and should use
fatter traces. Consider adding a power LED.

When you build it, find header pins like;

uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProd
uct&R=2518402

so you can attach scope probes etc. easily

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2009\03\30@072151 by olin piclist

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solarwind wrote:
> The inside set of pins will be for the PIC, the outside set of pins
> will be for header pins that will plug directly into a breadboard for
> easy prototyping.

If you mean one of those solderless breadboards, that will be awkward.  Your
board looks wide enough to cover up all the holes of the columns you plug
the board into.


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2009\03\30@105615 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Mar 30, 2009, at 4:22 AM, Olin Lathrop wrote:

> If you mean one of those solderless breadboards, that will be  
> awkward.  Your
> board looks wide enough to cover up all the holes of the columns you  
> plug
> the board into.

I've seen wider boards commercially sold as "breadboard compatible."
Breadboards will accomadate "DIPS" up to 1.3 inches wide, and this one  
seems a "typical" 0.8 inches (with pins on .5 inch centers, which  
isn't so bad ...
The wires don't have to plug in to the breadboard AFTER your PCB; they  
can go underneath, too.

BillW

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