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2002\10\15@173202 by Digiled dot com

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Hello pic,

 Anyone can recomend me a good VHDL Compiler ?
 Should I begin with VHDL or Verilog ?
 Hearing advices... regards, Gus

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2002\10\15@174002 by Herbert Graf

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> Hello pic,
>
>   Anyone can recomend me a good VHDL Compiler ?
>   Should I begin with VHDL or Verilog ?
>   Hearing advices... regards, Gus

       What devices will you be using, or do you just want to experiment? If so go
to http://www.xilinx.com, they offer a free IDE that supports verilog and VHDL
IIRC. It is pretty much the same tool as the one they sell for hundreds of
dollars. TTYL

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2002\10\16@084525 by Al Williams

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Personally, I prefer Verilog since it is C-like, but you'll find this is
one of those C vs Java, x86 vs 68000 kind of arguments.

If you want some tutorials on Xilinx and Verilog (but no VHDL yet) see
http://tutor.al-williams.com

Al Williams
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http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak9.htm




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2002\10\16@215040 by Brendan Moran

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At 05:39 PM 15/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > Hello pic,
> >
> >   Anyone can recomend me a good VHDL Compiler ?
> >   Should I begin with VHDL or Verilog ?
> >   Hearing advices... regards, Gus

I've heard tell, though I'm not sure how accurate this is, that Verilog
yields better results than VHDL.

--Brendan

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2002\10\16@221935 by Herbert Graf

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> At 05:39 PM 15/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > Hello pic,
> > >
> > >   Anyone can recomend me a good VHDL Compiler ?
> > >   Should I begin with VHDL or Verilog ?
> > >   Hearing advices... regards, Gus
>
> I've heard tell, though I'm not sure how accurate this is, that Verilog
> yields better results than VHDL.

       I would think that Verilog might be more "forgiving" but I don't really
think it could consistantly yield "better" results. TTYL

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2002\10\16@225233 by Brendan Moran

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> > I've heard tell, though I'm not sure how accurate this is, that Verilog
> > yields better results than VHDL.
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>         I would think that Verilog might be more "forgiving" but I don't
> really
>think it could consistantly yield "better" results. TTYL

Personally, my only experience is with VHDL, and I have not tried Verilog
Warp, made by Cypress, is the compiler I've used, but that doesn't do much
for someone designing for Xilinx or aAmel, etc.  The OP should decide what
part he is designing for before looking at what compiler to use.  I think
that Xilinx has a fair number of free tools, though.

I, personally, have very little opinion on which is better. (Verilog vs. VHDL)

What I said, quoted above, comes from having read the results of a contest
in '99.  The overview can be found here:
http://www.see.ed.ac.uk/~gerard/Teach/Verilog/manual/Example/lrgeEx2/cooley.html?http://oldeee.see.ed.ac.uk/~gerard/Teach/Verilog/manual/Example/lrgeEx2/cooley.html

The part I'm refering to is this: "reported that 8 out of the 9 Verilog
designers managed to complete the conference's design contest yet *none* of
the 5 VHDL designers could."

However, he later stated "I'm going present *everything* that happened at
the Design Contest, warts and all, and let *you* judge! At the end of court
evidence, I'll ask you, the jury, to write an e-mail reply which I can
publish in my column in the follow-up "Integrated System Design""

Before coming up with theories on how that could have happened, please do
read the article from the link seen above.

The conclusion that I drew from this is that the Verilog language may be
slightly friendlier.  That *does* lead to better results via less
frustrated designers, who usually tend to think more clearly.

--Brendan

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2002\10\16@230918 by Herbert Graf

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> >         I would think that Verilog might be more "forgiving" but I don't
> > really
> >think it could consistantly yield "better" results. TTYL
> I, personally, have very little opinion on which is better.
> (Verilog vs. VHDL)
>
> The conclusion that I drew from this is that the Verilog language may be
> slightly friendlier.  That *does* lead to better results via less
> frustrated designers, who usually tend to think more clearly.

       Interesting link, personally I feel Verilog is more "natural" for a person
coming from a computer programming background (which is most students these
days). Verilog tends to "flow" more like a HLL then VHDL. With that said it
also has the disadvantage of the user "forgetting" they are using a HDL and
NOT a computer language which can lead to completely normal looking code
that doesn't function (ask me how I know...). However, the same mistakes can
be made with VHDL. FWIW I've been exposed to VHDL (at school) but have used
Verilog exclusively (through my job) and although I perhaps should give VHDL
another try I much prefer Verilog, at the moment. TTYL

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2002\10\17@155429 by Peter L. Peres

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Greenleaf had a behavioral VHDL compiler demo that ran in DOS and in a DOS
window.

hope this helps,

Peter

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