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'[EE]: Proxy Server for Windows Internet Connection'
2002\02\26@043707 by Russell McMahon

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Can anyone recommend a good proxy server to allow Internet connection
sharing on a Windows based LAN.
Workstations are running WIN 95 / 98 SE / ME. Subsequently there may be some
old WIN3.11 PCs added to do dedicated tasks. Also one or more Linux boxes
"sometime".

The host has a nominally 128 kbps ADSl link and is running WIN 98 SE.

The Microsoft provided "Interconnection Sharing"  proxy server has had some
less than nice things said about it (which may not be exceptionally true).

There are a host of 3rd party proxy servers out there - many free. They also
mostly come with a revision history that suggests there may be more bugs to
come - except for those with no revision history at all that suggests they
may not be seriously developed :-) .

Can anyone recommend a simple, ideally free, stable & effective proxy server
for this purpose.
Needs to be able to run on the WIN98SE host.
Something with extra features is not really required although if your
favourite stable free solution has lots of extra bells and whistles then pse
comment on them.




regards

                   Russell McMahon

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2002\02\26@051659 by ichard Phillips

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> Can anyone recommend a simple, ideally free, stable &
> effective proxy server
> for this purpose.
> Needs to be able to run on the WIN98SE host.
> Something with extra features is not really required although if your
> favourite stable free solution has lots of extra bells and
> whistles then pse
> comment on them.

Hi,

There's a few solutions you could try - ICS does work OK, but it has little
configurability, and isn't really secure.  Also, if you can help it i
wouldn't recommend using Win98 for a router, it doesn't tend to be as stable
as WinNT/2K would be (although there would be less security patching..).  If
you do use ICS, make sure that you at least firewall the router pc (perhaps
something like Zone Alarm Pro, Tiny personal firewall, at the cheap end of
things).  ICS can have stability problems - usually a case of rebooting
every couple of weeks when it stops routing anything..

A good solution that i use for broadband and modem routing is Winroute
(http://www.winroute.com).  I use the Pro version, as it provides extra
configurability in terms of routing and security (some firewall
functionality) - and also other features, like http proxying and a mail
server.  However, it might be a bit on the pricy side for you.  Have never
had any reliability problems, however - has been running for weeks without
requiring any interference to keep it running.

One other option would be a linux-based firewall - such as smoothwall
(http://www.smoothwall.org).  Cheap (free..) and highly configurable, although it
may be a steeper learning curve.

There are other solutions out there - but it's best if you choose one that
does straight NAT routing rather than a SOCKS5 proxy or similar, just for
the sake of application compatibility (although it you're just using simple
things like web browsers, they would be fine).

Another thing to point out is that some work should be put into hardening
the router pc - having an on-demand regularly updated virus scanner would be
a must, as would a firewall (and while NAT routing provides some degree of
protection, it certainly isn't 100% secure - you might want to consider
firewalling your internal pc's also.  just depends on what data you've got
on them).  More importantly, look at the way the PC is configured - if
you're running Win9x you can ensure that personal web server is not running,
remove file and print sharing.  On NT/2K, ensure that the OS fully patched,
that IIS and index server isn't running, that all other unnecessary services
are disabled, etc.

You can get a fair amount of information on router setup and security
online - http://www.securityfocus.com provides various articles, with the
security-basics list being a good place to start.

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2002\02\26@055047 by Alpman Manalp

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www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm
I am using this software and it works pretty well.


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2002\02\26@065623 by Gabriel Caffese

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If it has to run on Win98, use WinRoute.
I´ve tried several packages, including analogX, but it´s the best.
Includes firewall, if you want, you have a mail server, etc, etc.

 Gabriel.-

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2002\02\26@073845 by James Williams

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Why not just use a wideband router, such as Netgear or Linksys.  This frees
your computer for other more important things.  Most of this wideband
routers are inexpensive, $120-$180.  They also have basic firewall features
and some have virous protection.

Regards,

James

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2002\02\26@074624 by Olin Lathrop

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> The Microsoft provided "Interconnection Sharing"  proxy server has had
some
> less than nice things said about it (which may not be exceptionally true).

It's not a proxy server, it's an IP address translator.  It works fine both
at home and in my office, although we aren't beating on it real hard in
either place.

> Needs to be able to run on the WIN98SE host.

Bad choice.  I would use Win2000.


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2002\02\26@080639 by michael brown

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Russell asks:
> Can anyone recommend a simple, ideally free, stable & effective proxy
server
> for this purpose.
> Needs to be able to run on the WIN98SE host.

Nope, can't really be done since you want stability and reliability.  ICS
will work, but it is not the most dependable thing in the world.  Why not
use Linux?  Before I got a cable connection, I used Linux, pppd, diald (to
connect on demand) and ipchains to do the NAT functions.  It worked
perfectly, once I got it set up right.  ;-)  Months would go by with no
problems.  This gave all my pc's internet access simultaneously, and
fire-walled my stuff.

michael

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2002\02\26@103424 by Gordon Varney

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Russell,
       I to looked for a proxy server that you described. I found Winproxy. http://www.ositis.com/

Easy to use, I have never had it crash, and it has a firewall and virus protection. I send and receive email through the
proxy server all the time. I use a Satellite down link on one PC, the other PC's log into the primary PC to access the
internet. It works great and the cost is reasonable.

Gordon Varney
http://www.iamnee.com



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2002\02\26@105848 by Lawrence Lile

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Gordon,

Sound's like you can't get cable down in your neck of the woods.  How's that
"C" coming?

--Lawrence

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2002\02\26@142554 by uter van ooijen & floortje hanneman

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> Needs to be able to run on the WIN98SE host.

Is that a hard requirement? I just use an old 486 with freesco. Very simple
masquerading proxy, Linux-based, can boot from a floppy... Just leave the
win98se box intact and hide and old PC behind it ;)

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2002\02\27@114153 by Morgan Olsson

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I am using, and have installed at customers, the Viking server.
http://www.robtex.com/viking
Runs on any Windows från Win95 and up.
(Porting to Linux too is in progress)

Have it running at a customer on an old Win95B Pentium90 32MRAM, which is also a file and back-up server.  No problem.

About win95
1) Win95 registry has better to be adjusted to set more socks, reg file avaiable from Viking site.
2) if connecting through modem, you better patch Win95 to Microsoft DialUp Networking (DUN) version 1.3 with a file from MS website, as Win95 original tcp/ip can´t keep up the speed with a 56kModem. (at least not while running Viking on a P90, i have noticed)  Maybe also Win98 benefits from this patch.

(A small thing: keep the Viking window closed, the continuously updating window take more cpu than the traffic...  Well, Viking is configured from your web browser anyway, and I am told there will be no widow in future versions.)

Stability is superb.  It even creates a duplicate instance of itself, that monitors the workin gone and restarts it should any program crash it.  Install is easy.  Put viking.exe in C:\viking and execute viking -install att the prompt.  It will install itself as a service.  Then surf to it, configure, use :)
It is relly a very capeable server although i only use it as a HTTP proxy, HTTP server, mail and some more...
Also realise this is a caching HTTP1.1 proxy both using ram and disk so it speeds up surfing.

90day free trial, then 100USD lifetime license.  A bargain for that functionality.

The documentation is not complete, but almost instant help is through a mailing list (You know how the PICLIST Work... :) ) on which also the author participate.

Viking has gone through high load tests, and security tests, and have only had one voulnerability -that got fixed in a few hours!

Regards
/Morgan

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