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2002\05\07@134150 by Digiled dot com

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Hello piclist,

 Anyone can suggest a method to measure power factor in AC lines.
 Specially considering noisy enviroments and poli-harmonics
 conditions.
           Thanks in advance.

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2002\05\07@140335 by Rick C.

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This company makes an embedded pic meter to measure power factor among
other things.
Pricey but excellent quality and specs.
http://www.brandelectronics.com/specs1.htm
Rick

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2002\05\07@140603 by Barry Gershenfeld

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I suspect that if that "stuff" is on the power line, then it is
going into your load, so measure it and report it.

Take many samples of volts and amps.
For each sample, calculate rms volts, rms amps, and rms watts.
After you have enough samples, multiply rms volts times rms amps.
It (rms VA) will be larger then rms watts.  That's your power
factor, which I think (anyone?) is just (rms watts)/(rms VA)

Barry




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2002\05\08@032611 by System Administrator

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Hi,

maybe a simpler approach:

- do a lowpass filtering of current and voltage (it changes phase angle,
but do not mind as both change in the same way)
- detect the zero-crossing point for both, regarding only voltage increase
- measure the time between them (lag)

power_factor = cos(tlag / tper * 2 * pi)

(there is a divisor of 4 in both side but disappears).

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Imre


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2002\05\08@165007 by Digiled dot com

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Hello System,

SA> - do a lowpass filtering of current and voltage (it changes phase angle,
SA> but do not mind as both change in the same way)
SA> - detect the zero-crossing point for both, regarding only voltage increase
SA> - measure the time between them (lag)
SA> power_factor = cos(tlag / tper * 2 * pi)
SA> (there is a divisor of 4 in both side but disappears).

   Yes, but i supossed that in poli harmonics measurements you must
   consider all the the frecuencies, so It might no be possible to
   filter V and I. Actually, I'm using this way but I browsing into another
   alternatives. thanks anyway.
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