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'[EE]: PCBs using toner transfer paper - Inkjet pri'
2000\07\19@074058 by Esteban Traid

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This toner transfer method seems interesting for my hobbist needs.
The problem is I only have a HP inkjet printer. I've seen at the shop that
there is some special "paper" ment for transfering the print to a t-shirt
(by printing and ironing I think). This sounds quite similar to the method
beeing discussed here.
Has anybody tried making PCB's using this inkjet printers?
Regards,
Esteban.

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2000\07\19@131500 by Eisermann, Phil [Ridg/CO]

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That paper is not suitable. It deposits a film on the copper, not just the
traces.

however, I have used Epson Photo paper. It's made for inkjet printers. It
works if your traces are large enough. In general, I have had only moderate
success with it, and the toner transfer paper (have yet to try the
Press-n-Peel). I do have the "Super Fuser".

       I much prefer the photosensitive method due to the quality. If I
could get the toner transfer system to work properly, that would be
preferred. Faster, fewer steps, no darkroom, etc.

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2000\07\19@140831 by Dave Roberts

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Why not just print a tranparency on the inkjet and use photosensitive pcb.
Develop in solution of caustic soda and etch ?

I have tried various transfer methods over the years and find them poor in
regard of combined resolution and repeatability. Yes, I know they can work
but photo is still the easiest IMHO.

Dave

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2000\07\20@162428 by Esteban Traid

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Phil,

Thanks for your answer, but I cannot see how you suggest to use the photo
paper. I know what you are talking about (I usit all day), but how can it
be used with the PCB? Can you be more speciphic on this?
Thanks,

Esteban.

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> From:         "Eisermann, Phil [Ridg/CO]" <spam_OUTpeisermaTakeThisOuTspamRIDGID.COM>
> Subject:      Re: [EE]: PCBs using toner transfer paper - Inkjet printers
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> That paper is not suitable. It deposits a film on the copper, not just
the
> traces.
>
> however, I have used Epson Photo paper. It's made for inkjet printers. It
> works if your traces are large enough. In general, I have had only
moderate
> success with it, and the toner transfer paper (have yet to try the
> Press-n-Peel). I do have the "Super Fuser".
>

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2000\07\21@091025 by Eisermann, Phil [Ridg/CO]

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sure! This is a trick that actually came from the PICLIST. Instead of using
the toner transfer paper, someone had mentioned using photo quality inkjet
paper. You print on this paper just as you would normal toner transfer
paper. Then heat-fuse it to the board. In other words, use it the same way
as you would the other stuff.

The paper is considerably thicker and the toner transfer paper. I have not
used it with an iron, but rather the "Super Fuser" I suspect that it takes
more heat due to its thickness. As I said before, it works as long as your
traces are thick enough. It does leave some paper residue near the traces.
e.g. the lines do not appear as sharp as with toner transfer, but rather
look a little 'fuzzy'. This does not seem to influence the results.  The
real benefit is the cost. It's *much* cheaper.

If you use it often, as your message implied, you probably have some laying
around. Give it a try...

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2000\07\21@092030 by Michael Rigby-Jones

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I suspect what Esteban was confused about was that it sounded like you could
use the photo paper with an inkjet and get good results.  You have to use
the inkjet photo paper in a laser printer!!

Cheers

Mike

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2000\07\21@114453 by Randy A.

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Mike:

Yes, I was about to write the same thing.  From my experience the ink in an
ink jet printer will NOT work for the toner transfer method.

Randy

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2000\07\21@120948 by Rob R

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Ink in an inkjet is NOT toner... huge differnce im pretty sure toner is heat transfered to the paper, thats why it will transfer off the special transfer paper.

Rob

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2000\07\21@175435 by Eisermann, Phil [Ridg/CO]

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umm, yes. I apologize terribly. I merely meant using the glossy photo inkjet
paper instead of the toner transfer paper. Sorry if i wasn't clear on that.
You still need to use the inkjet paper in a laser printer, as several people
have mentioned.


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