Post by thread:[EE]: Online electronics store

I'm looking for a decent online electronics store somewere in europe (preferbly one selling 18f PICs and alot of other stuff), I just can't find anything for some reason... something like newark would be nice... I'm in belgium, so belgium/france/uk/netherlands/germany would be the i think... thanks, Jan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

Try http://www.conrad.de. They have the PIC18F452-I/P for 16,40 EURO. James Hyslop -----Original Message----- From: Jan Malina [spam_OUTjan.malinaTakeThisOuTPI.BE] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 2:46 PM To: .....PICLISTKILLspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [EE]: Online electronics store I'm looking for a decent online electronics store somewere in europe (preferbly one selling 18f PICs and alot of other stuff), I just can't find anything for some reason... something like newark would be nice... I'm in belgium, so belgium/france/uk/netherlands/germany would be the i think... thanks, Jan ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper and Symantec Norton AntiVirus for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

> I'm looking for a decent online electronics store somewere in europe > (preferbly one selling 18f PICs and alot of other stuff), I > just can't find anything for some reason... something like newark would be nice... http://www.conrad.nl but they are a bit slow in catching up with the newest PICs, but I sell those at http://www.voti.nl/shop (I can't wait until the EC forces the banks to ease euro-zone cross-country payments) Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

> Try http://www.conrad.de. They have the PIC18F452-I/P for 16,40 EURO. (assuming that includes VAT) I sell'm for 13.21 But I am surprised that they sell them at all! Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

If you buy a quantity of 100! I think PIC's tend to cost more in Europe... -----Original Message----- From: Jan Malina [jan.malinaKILLspamPI.BE] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 3:03 PM To: .....PICLISTKILLspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE]: Online electronics store SIXTEEN????? isn't it like $6 on the microchip site? > Try http://www.conrad.de. They have the PIC18F452-I/P for 16,40 EURO. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper and Symantec Norton AntiVirus for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

> isn't it like $6 on the microchip site? There is no microchip store (at least no functional one any more). DigiKey 9.38000 @ singles. Add 19% sales tax... Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

>> Try http://www.conrad.de. They have the PIC18F452-I/P for 16,40 EURO. > > (assuming that includes VAT) I sell'm for 13.21 > But I am surprised that they sell them at all! > > Wouter van Ooijen Conrad.nl doesn't seem to have alot of PICs (no 18Fs, no 16F877, ...) I haven't seen the 18F ones on your site yet Wouter, else I wouldn't be looking for an online store that sells them :) I guess 13.21 would be decent then... maybe I should try to use an other pic for my project... something cheaper... Jan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

> haven't seen the 18F ones on your site yet Wouter, else I wouldn't be > looking for an online store that sells them :) assuming you speak dutch, try http://www.voti.nl/winkel/producten_1.html#PIC-452 Wouter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

op 22-08-2002 22:52 schreef Wouter van Ooijen op EraseMEwouterspam_OUTTakeThisOuTVOTI.NL: >> haven't seen the 18F ones on your site yet Wouter, else I wouldn't be >> looking for an online store that sells them :) > > assuming you speak dutch, try > http://www.voti.nl/winkel/producten_1.html#PIC-452 aaaah now i see why i hadn't noticed it before "Beschrijving Microchip PIC 16F452-40/P (16k FLASH, 40 MHz, DIP-40)" that should be 18F452 :) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

>haven't seen the 18F ones on your site yet Wouter, else I wouldn't be I thought that too when looking through the list, but they are there. It is because of the way he describes them without the 16F or 18F, just the last 3 numbers if the PIC part number. gets a bit confusing Wouter. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listservspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

>If you buy a quantity of 100! I think PIC's tend to cost more in Europe... >>SIXTEEN????? >>isn't it like $6 on the microchip site? >>> Try http://www.conrad.de. They have the PIC18F452-I/P for 16,40 EURO. Don't forget that although things cost more, there is a hefty tax on top of the price, which brings it up to these sort of levels. Germany has 16% Mwst (VAT) UK has 17.5% VAT NL has 19% VAT USA has how much sales tax?? IIRC something of the order of 1/3 of these. Look at what the tax is in NL that Wouter has to add (to ship to anywhere inside the EU), but his prices still look reasonable. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email @spam@listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

> inside the EU), but his prices still look reasonable. Especially don't confuse the price for 1 chip with the price for 100+ at DigiKey or the deals you can get for 10k! Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email KILLspamlistservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Alan B. Pearce wrote: > Germany has 16% Mwst (VAT) > UK has 17.5% VAT > NL has 19% VAT Wow. I'm... speechless. > USA has how much sales tax?? IIRC something of the order of 1/3 of these. It varies by location, since there is no national sales tax. In my little corner of the country it's 6.5%, I've seen much lower and as high as 8-9%, there may be places where it's even higher. One typically doesn't pay sales tax when buying from an out of state or foreign supplier (for example when I order from Digi-Key), though this is a matter of some debate depending on where you are. There are taxes on gasoline, tobacco, alcohol, etc. but I suspect they're probably also nowhere near as high as Europe and some other areas. Wow. 16 to 19%, huh? That really, really sucks. My condolences. Dale -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email RemoveMElistservTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

In the USA there is no federal sales tax. Each state sets its own sales tax rates and policies. I'm in Massachusetts where sales tax is 5% with food and clothing exempt from all tax. Businesses only have to collect sales tax for the state in which they are located and only from residents of that state. So, when I order from Digi-Key (Minnesota) they do not charge any sales tax. However Massachusetts law says I'm supposed to tell the state about the purchase and send 5% to the state, guess how often people do that :-). Paul > {Original Message removed}

> > Germany has 16% Mwst (VAT) > > UK has 17.5% VAT > > NL has 19% VAT > > Wow. I'm... speechless. > > > USA has how much sales tax?? IIRC something of the order of 1/3 of these. {Quote hidden}> > It varies by location, since there is no national sales tax. In my little > corner of the country it's 6.5%, I've seen much lower and as high as 8-9%, > there may be places where it's even higher. One typically doesn't pay > sales tax when buying from an out of state or foreign supplier (for > example when I order from Digi-Key), though this is a matter of some > debate depending on where you are. There are taxes on gasoline, tobacco, > alcohol, etc. but I suspect they're probably also nowhere near as high as > Europe and some other areas. > > Wow. 16 to 19%, huh? That really, really sucks. My condolences. Canada is 7% (Alberta) to 14.5% (where I am) and higher. The federal sales tax is 7%. The provincial sales tax in BC is 7.5% --Brendan -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email TakeThisOuTlistservEraseMEspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

op 23-08-2002 15:23 schreef Dale Botkin op RemoveMEdaleTakeThisOuTBOTKIN.ORG: {Quote hidden}> On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Alan B. Pearce wrote: > >> Germany has 16% Mwst (VAT) >> UK has 17.5% VAT >> NL has 19% VAT > > Wow. I'm... speechless. > >> USA has how much sales tax?? IIRC something of the order of 1/3 of these. > > It varies by location, since there is no national sales tax. In my little > corner of the country it's 6.5%, I've seen much lower and as high as 8-9%, > there may be places where it's even higher. One typically doesn't pay > sales tax when buying from an out of state or foreign supplier (for > example when I order from Digi-Key), though this is a matter of some > debate depending on where you are. There are taxes on gasoline, tobacco, > alcohol, etc. but I suspect they're probably also nowhere near as high as > Europe and some other areas. > > Wow. 16 to 19%, huh? That really, really sucks. My condolences. > > Dale Hmm... afaik we have 21% (6% for some things though) -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listservEraseME.....mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

I thought higher taxes hurt the economy! Sounds like a viscous cycle to me. ;) -----Original Message----- From: John Walshe [EraseMEJohn.WalsheINPACTMICRO.COM] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 10:08 AM To: RemoveMEPICLISTEraseMEEraseMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE]: Online electronics store Try Ireland @21% ( and it might yet go higher if economies don't pick up!) John -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email RemoveMElistservspam_OUTKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email RemoveMElistservTakeThisOuTspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

What is your income tax like ? I pay about 30% (income) tax here in the US when I lump in Social security tax and Medicare tax Stuff that is included under income tax in NZ. (Sales tax 12.5% and income tax 21 %) -----Original Message----- From: John Walshe [EraseMEJohn.WalshespamspamBeGoneINPACTMICRO.COM] Try Ireland @21% ( and it might yet go higher if economies don't pick up!) John -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email RemoveMElistservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

"Scott M. Thomas" <scottSTOPspamspam_OUTDBT.NET> wrote: > John Walshe <spamBeGoneJohn.WalsheSTOPspamEraseMEINPACTMICRO.COM> wrote: > > Try Ireland @21% (and it might yet go higher if economies don't pick up!) > > I thought higher taxes hurt the economy! Sounds like a viscous cycle to me. vicious, too ;-) -- Dave Tweed -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email KILLspamlistservspamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

{Quote hidden}> > Germany has 16% Mwst (VAT) > > UK has 17.5% VAT > > NL has 19% VAT > > Wow. I'm... speechless. > > > USA has how much sales tax?? IIRC something of the order of 1/3 > of these. > > It varies by location, since there is no national sales tax. In my little > corner of the country it's 6.5%, I've seen much lower and as high as 8-9%, > there may be places where it's even higher. One typically doesn't pay > sales tax when buying from an out of state or foreign supplier (for > example when I order from Digi-Key), though this is a matter of some > debate depending on where you are. There are taxes on gasoline, tobacco, > alcohol, etc. but I suspect they're probably also nowhere near as high as > Europe and some other areas. > > Wow. 16 to 19%, huh? That really, really sucks. My condolences. Well here in Ontario, Canada we pay 7% GST (federal sales tax) and 8% PST (provicial sales tax) which comes out to 15% total. Much of Canada is similar (except for Alberta which doesn't have PST, AFAIK). TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email EraseMElistservEraseMEmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body