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'[EE]: Non linear dynamics of discrete time electro'
2002\10\31@061335 by Russell McMahon

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More than you hoped there was to know about the subject.
Doctor Oria Feeley. A few ladies like her (or men for that matter) would
certainly raise the technical level on this list. Probably best discouraged
then :-)

       http://www.nd.edu/~stjoseph/newscas/CAS_March00.pdf

Application - digital filters with overflow, sigma delta modulators, digital
phase locked loops.
Probably only for the aficionados.

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2002\10\31@173536 by Jim

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  "More than you hoped there was to know about the subject"
  "Probably only for the aficionados."

You would be surprised what any one of us could
do - when we put the *full* resources of our time
and ingenuity to work on a 'problem' ... then again
there is that vein of 'education' where one's end
product is not so much 'product' as it is producing
(literally) volumes of little-read, obscure material
for others in 'education' ...

RF Jim


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2002\10\31@182057 by Russell McMahon

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>    "More than you hoped there was to know about the subject"
>    "Probably only for the aficionados."
>
> You would be surprised what any one of us could
> do - when we put the *full* resources of our time
> and ingenuity to work on a 'problem' ...

No.
John Carmack is going to orbit :-)

> then again
> there is that vein of 'education' where one's end
> product is not so much 'product' as it is producing
> (literally) volumes of little-read, obscure material
> for others in 'education' ...

Indeed.
This particlualr material of Dr Feeley's is, of course, is not such.
The problems and applications are real enough, just more complex to analyse
than most would want to deal with.
I imagine that Scott D and a few others may well find it of some value.

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2002\10\31@203646 by Roman Black

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Jim wrote:
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>    "More than you hoped there was to know about the subject"
>    "Probably only for the aficionados."
>
> You would be surprised what any one of us could
> do - when we put the *full* resources of our time
> and ingenuity to work on a 'problem' ... then again
> there is that vein of 'education' where one's end
> product is not so much 'product' as it is producing
> (literally) volumes of little-read, obscure material
> for others in 'education' ...


Education is what you do to *yourself*.
Expecting someone "smarter" to educate you
is a sure fire way to accomplish mediocrity.

And just so that is not misinterpreted I think
Russell's efforts to present the list with
new and interesting academic items is to be
commended not criticised. :o)
-Roman

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'[EE]: Non linear dynamics of discrete time electro'
2002\11\01@123602 by Jim
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  > Education is what you do to *yourself*.

'Education', when I singly I quote it as I did, means
"The Established and Entrenched Educational (university)
Establishment".

And I'm pointing more squarely at the 'publish or perish'
atmosphere that exists in acedemia where every little
"jot and tittle" is thoroughly characterized, studied and
sole ownership of the idea 'claimed' (via much fanfare)
by those doing the research which ultimately is published
in journals which have limited readership ... whereas most
of us with real-world practical experience have seen MANY
of these phenoms in our work - but lack the time and money
to persue it singularly as researchers do who solicit funds
from various trusts or gov't funding ...

I have nothing against research nor it's publication nor
the notification of the public of it's existance - but
*some* of it, I do believe, is vastly overblown in
importance, scope and interpretated 'meaning' ...

RF Jim


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