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'[EE]: Microcontroller selector guides'
2001\12\21@072639 by Russell McMahon

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I'm on the search again for a microcontroller for a project.

Has anyone got a reference to a selector guide which covers the features of
a wide range of avail;able processors in a single place. Everyone is happy
(enough) to tell you what they sell but you can spend a lot of time looking
for all reasonable alternatives.

FWIW my spec is

Cost sensitive - ideally <= $US1 in 10k quantity

MUST have 1 channel of 5 kHz real-time PWM capability. Resolution COULD be
as low as around 5% steps but finer would be better (say 8 bits). [5 kHz at
5% duty cycle is 10 uS per step so one might ALMOST do this in software with
a suitably fast cpu but as there are several realtimish tasks a timer based
PWM is much preferred]. A second PWM channel would be nice but is not
essential.

A2D (8 bit OK) would be extremely desirable but not strictly essential

Flash would be nice but OTP ok

EEROM would be nice but not essential

RC clock operation desirable.

Anti brownout and inbuilt power on reset desirable.

Cost sensitive

UART nice but not ....

IIC not really needed but if it was there ...

Code memory of 1K probably OK.

Limited RAM needed.

Cost sensitive ... :-)

SOIC packaging for production. Availability of DIP for initial prototyping
would be useful.

Reasonable (ie low $ or free :-) ) priced development tools desirable.
Assembler OK, free or cheap C etc would not be unwelcome.

OTP / Flash and mask versions would be useful.

Manufacturer not in Chapter 11 or any variant thereof would be nice :-)

Technically responsive supplier would be useful.


My feeling is that any PIC which meets the hardware spec tends to fail the
price spec.






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2001\12\21@074553 by J.Feldhaar

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Hi Russell,

you seem to describe the TI MSP 430 series, I personally recommend the
MSP430F1101 (only unsure abt PWM), but bigger series will have this
included.
Dev kit is US$49, after some tweaking it works.....(that's TI for you!)
I use this one and its bigger brother, MSP430F1121 in a project, and
they WORK.
TI had this as a big advertisement (banner-like) that 1K qty would be
0.99 $US, - so there you are. (Don't know if they upped them lately...)

Greets (and a warm Xmas)

Jochen Feldhaar DH6FAZ

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2001\12\21@092722 by Tim McDonough

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> My feeling is that any PIC which meets the hardware spec tends
to fail the
> price spec.
>

You never know. If there's a PIC you would really like to use
have a frank discussion with your distributor about the price
target. They may have more wiggle room at 10K pieces and can
sometimes get special pricing in order to get a design win. Also,
don't discuss just the PIC with them. Give them a shot a quoting
the whole bill of materials. They may be able to give you a
really good deal on other parts in order to get the processor
into your design.

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2001\12\21@123410 by Mina Nichols

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HI.
EG3 http://www.cera2.com/index.html is pretty popular but I don't like them
because their rating systems is very much influenced by paid ads.  Of course
magazines buyer's guides tend to have lots of information laid out in
detailed charts, but they are also inclined to only tell you about companies
that have paid their fees, besides, either yo get the mag or you don't.  You
can't just go find it when you need it.
My company, Vesta Techonolgy makes versatile, low-power, pic-based SBCs and
I think that we do an excellent job of giving you all the information you
might want on our web site (but then I maintain the web site, so I'm
biased).  our site is http://www.vestatech.com.
sorry I don't have a perfect answer for you.  However I do have this nifty
chart of our competitors and their web sites:
Company Web site        Key words
AAEON Electronics       http://www.aaeon.com   PC/104
Accelent sys    http://www.accelent.com        PCMCIA
Acces IO        http://www.acces-usa.com
Acqutek http://www.acqu.com    Backplane cameras displays pentium
ACT Tecnico     http://www.acttechnico.com     PCI
Actisys http://www.actisys.com
ADAC    http://www.adac.com    PCI
Adaptive Systems, Inc.  http://www.adaptivesystems.com x86
Adastra http://www.adastra.com PC/104 PCI WinCE
Adtron  http://www.adtron.com
Advanced Design System  http://www.advdesignsolutions.com
Advanced Digital Logic, Inc.    http://www.digitallogic.ch     Embedded PC
Advantech       http://www.advantech.com
Aerotech        http://www.aerothechusa.com
Alacron http://www.alacron.com PCI, VME
Algorythmic     http://www.algor.co.uk PCI, ISA,PCMCIA
Alphi Technology        http://www.alphitech.com       PCI PC/104  VME
Alta Technology http://www.altatech.com        PCI Mezzanine
AM Reasearch    http://www.amresearch.com      Embedded Control
American Predator       http://www.americanpreditor.com
Ampro Computers http://www.ampro.com   PC, PC104, EBX
analog devices  http://www.analog.com
antona  http://www.antona.com
Apex Embedded Systems   http://www.apexembedded.com
Applied Data Systems    http://www.flatpanels.com      WinCE Flatpanels
Applied Integrations    http://www.appliedi.com
Appor   http://www.appro.com   network appliances
Arbor Technology        http://www.arbor.com.tw/main/htm       pc/104
Arcom Control Systems   http://www.arcom.co.uk/eg3
Arise   http://www.arisecomputer.com/http://www.araise.com
Ashware http://www.ashware.com TPU
Atlas Communication Engines     http://www.ace360.com
Avantech        http://www.avantech.com        Pentium
AVR Sprint      http://www.embedsys.com
Axiom Manufacturing     http://www.axman.com
Axiom Technology        http://www.axiomtek.com        pci, Data acquisition, pentium
Bagotronix      http://www.bagotronix.com      Embedded Control -188
Basicon Inc.    http://www.basicon.com
Bipom   http://www.bipom.com   8051
Bittware Research Systems       http://www.bittware.com
Blue earth research     http://www.blueearthresearch.com       8051, 8052, Basic
boser   http://www.boser.com   x86
BVM limited     http://www.bvmltd.com
Carlo Gavazzi   http://www.carlogavazzi.com
Catalyst Enterprises    http://www.catalyst-ent.com
Celerity Systems        http://www.csidaq.com
Cell Computing  http://www.cellcomputing.com
CETIA   http://www.cetia.com
Cetia   http://www.cetia.com
Coactive networks       http://www.coactive.com
COMARK  http://www.comarkcorp.com
CompuLab        http://www.compulab.co.il      PC 486CORE
Concur systems  http://www.concursys.com
Connecticut Micro computers     http://www.2cmc.com    networking and swiches
Corelis http://www.corelis.com
Cyclone Microsystems    http://www.cyclone.com cPCI PCI VME
Densan  http://www.densan.com  cPCI VME
Densitron       http://www.densitron.com       rugged, pentium
Digital OEM Business Segment    http://www.digital.com/info/oem
Dy 4 Systems inc        http://www.dy4.com     VME SBC
Dynamic Engineering             mezzanine, PC/104,PCI
Dynatem http://www.dynatem.com VME SBC
EMAC    http://www.emacinc.com 188 x86+F37
Embedded Support Tools Corp     http://www.estc.com    dev tools
Embedex http://www.embedex.com
Embedtec        http://www.embedetec.com       PCI ISA
EMJ     emjembedded.com PC104
EMS     http://www.embededde-pc104.com PC104
Epson Electornic        http://www.eea.epson.com
Expert Electronics      http://www.expert-tw.com
Force Computers http://www.forcecomputers.com
Gateworks       http://www.gateworks.com
General Micro Systems   http://www.gms4vme.com VME SBC Sparc Sbus coldfire
Gespac  http://www.gespac.com
Global American http://www.global American.inc
Hectronic       http://www.hectronic.com
HiTech Equipment Corp   http://www.hte.com     SBC Emmulators 188 8051
Ibase   http://www.ibase-I.com.tw      pc104
I-Bus   http://www.ibus.com
Industrial Computers    http://www.or-computers.com
Industrial CPU Systems  http://www.icpu.com
Inside Technolgy USA    http://www.inside-us.com
Intec Automation        http://www.steroidmicro.com    embedded Power PC
Interlogic      http://www.infoview.com        SBC Backplanes, VME
Itox    http://www.itox.com
JED Microsystems        jedmicro.com
Jkmicrosystems  http://www.jkmicro.com Dos Linux
KG Systems      http://www.kgsystems.com       tiny tiger
Kinnetic Computers Corp http://www.kin.com     wirelwess WinCE
Lanner  http://www.lannerinc.com       ISA PC/104 PICmg
Libbert http://www.libbert-at.com      consultant, developer industrial sys
MATRIX corp.    http://www.matrix.com  Rugged WinCE
MCSI    http://www.mcsi1.com   CP Compatible
Megatel Computer Corp   http://www.megatel.ca  PCI PC/104 -332
Micro Computer Specialists      http://www.mcsil.com
micro Design    http://www.microdesignco.com   PCI PC/104
Micro Industries        http://www.microindustries.com
Micro Vention   http://www.microvention.com    micro bench tool kit for home embedded
elec
Micro/sys       http://www.embeddedsys.com     PC/104 Pentium Small 8051
Microbus        http://www.microbus.com
Microdigital software           software
Micromint       http://www.micromint.com       embedded modems, TCP/IP RTC BCC PicStic
Midwest Micro-Tek       http://www.midwestmicro-tek.com        188 controller used by Artcturus
Momentum computers      http://www.momenco.com VME compactPCI
Mosaic Industries       http://www.mosaic-industries.com       touch
Motorola Computer group http://www.mcg.mot.com
MVS     http://www.mvsweb.com
National Instruments    http://www.natinst.com measurement
New Micros, Inc.        http://www.newmicros.com       Forth
Nu Horizons     http://www.nuhorizons.com      passive components manufactured by Nippon
Industries Co., Ltd
nucleus http://www.nucleus1.com
Octagon Systems http://www.octagonsystems.com  rugged, palm, PC104 (bad guys)
OKW electronics http://www.okwelectronics.com
Onset   http://www.onsetcomp.com       data loggers, -332
O'S systems     http://www.ossystems.net
Paralax http://www.paralaxinc.com      Hobbiest, PIC
PC engines      http://www.pcengines.com
Pep Modular Computers   www.
Phytec  http://www.phytec.com/USAmerica/       8051 x86
PLC     http://www.tri-plc.com modbus distributed control system
Pond    http://www.pond.ie
quake Modular technologies      http://www.hypertechnologies.com
Rabbit  Rabbitsemiconductor.com Core tool modules with ethernet
Radisys http://www.radisys.com Pentium "total communication solution"
Real Time Devices       http://www.rtduse.com
Recortec        http://www.recortec.com        Pentium
Remote Processing       http://www.remotep.com,http://www.RP3.com     measurement 188
RES     http://www.RS485.com
Rigel   http://www.rigelcorp.com       8051
RLC     http://www.rlc.com
RMV     http://www.RMV.com
SBC Designs     http://www.sbcdesigns.com      scsi, RAID
SBS     http://www.sbs.com
Sea level       http://www.sealevel.com
Sinetic http://www.sinetics.com        rugged
Sirius Microsystems     http://www.siriusmicro.com     Pic Tools
Site Player     http://www.siteplayer.com      data acquisition
Sky Computers   http://www.sky.com
Smart Modular Technologies      http://www.smartm.com  Falsh 500 products
Square1 http://www.square1industries.com       celeron, 786
steatite        http://www.staetite.co.uk      Pentium
synergy micro systems   http://www.synergymicro.com    PCI, VME
Systran http://www.systran.com DSP
Technoland      http://www.technoland.com
Technologic Systems     http://www.t-systems.com
Teknor Industrial Computers, Inc.       http://www.teknor.com  PC on Board
tempustech      http://www.tempustech.com
Tern    http://www.tern.com    microcontrollers -188
Themis Computer http://www.themis.com  SPARC VME
Toronto Microelectronics - TME  http://www.tme-inc.com
Trenton         http://www.trentonprocessors.com       ISA PCI
Triangle Reasearch      http://www.tri-plc.com PLC
uclinux http://www.uclinux.com linux coldfire
Versa Logic     http://www.versalogic.com      PC/104, STD32BUS
Vesta Technology        http://www.vestatech.com       versatile PIC based, low power, w/
powerful Basic & animated remote debug.  web site contains schematics,
datasheets, and manuals
vigilant        http://www.vigilanttech.com    PMC Motion
Vista Controls Corp.    http://www.vistacc.com

VMIC    http://www.vmic.com
Weeder  weedtech.com/   modular motion control
Win Enterprise  http://www.win-ent.com PC 104 WinCE
windriver               software
Winsys  http://www.winsystems.com      PC/104
xtech   http://www.xtechusa.com
ZF Microsystems http://www.zfmicro.com
Ziatech http://www.ziatech.com 1999 cPCI DSL sales $80million
Z-World http://www.zworld.com  embedded control & ethernet, -188 & -074*
zykronix        http://www.zykronix.com        PC compatible

-Mina Nichols
Vesta Technology


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2001\12\21@134843 by Robert Rolf
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Great list Mina. I don't suppose you have it in HTML or a URL to get
to it. Cut and paste is sooooo arcane <G>. And if people would put
in front of any URLs posted, they become hotlinks in most modern
email clients, as in http://www.vestatech.com

Thanks for the list.

R

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2001\12\21@161646 by Mina Nichols

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sorry, I'm hopelessly behind the times.  No HTML, my copy is on punch cards
(just kidding).
thanks for the info on how to make a web address into a link.  I wish I
could get excel 2000 to quit making every URL I type into a link.
-Mina

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2001\12\21@210204 by John Ferrell

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Perhaps there is an advantage to using Outlook. The  http://www.aaeon.com
is tinted blue and clicks OK.

John Ferrell
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Julian NC 27283
Phone: (336)685-9606
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2001\12\21@212426 by Dale Botkin

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, John Ferrell wrote:

> Perhaps there is an advantage to using Outlook. The  http://www.aaeon.com
> is tinted blue and clicks OK.

Heck, Pine does that too.  Well, its reverse and not blue. And you don't
click, really...  but you get the idea...

8-)

Dale
(who uses both, go figure!)

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2001\12\24@122731 by David P. Harris

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Hi-
Here's the list.
I just did a global substitution on the www's.
David

AAEON Electronics       http://www.aaeon.com   PC/104
Accelent sys    http://www.accelent.com        PCMCIA
Acces IO        http://www.acces-usa.com
Acqutek http://www.acqu.com    Backplane cameras displays pentium
ACT Tecnico     http://www.acttechnico.com     PCI
Actisys http://www.actisys.com
ADAC    http://www.adac.com    PCI
Adaptive Systems, Inc.  http://www.adaptivesystems.com x86
Adastra http://www.adastra.com PC/104 PCI WinCE
Adtron  http://www.adtron.com
Advanced Design System  http://www.advdesignsolutions.com
Advanced Digital Logic, Inc.    http://www.digitallogic.ch     Embedded PC
Advantech       http://www.advantech.com
Aerotech        http://www.aerothechusa.com
Alacron http://www.alacron.com PCI, VME
Algorythmic     http://www.algor.co.uk PCI, ISA,PCMCIA
Alphi Technology        http://www.alphitech.com       PCI PC/104  VME
Alta Technology http://www.altatech.com        PCI Mezzanine
AM Reasearch    http://www.amresearch.com      Embedded Control
American Predator       http://www.americanpreditor.com
Ampro Computers http://www.ampro.com   PC, PC104, EBX
analog devices  http://www.analog.com
antona  http://www.antona.com
Apex Embedded Systems   http://www.apexembedded.com
Applied Data Systems    http://www.flatpanels.com      WinCE Flatpanels
Applied Integrations    http://www.appliedi.com
Appor   http://www.appro.com   network appliances
Arbor Technology        http://www.arbor.com.tw/main/htm       pc/104
Arcom Control Systems   http://www.arcom.co.uk/eg3
Arise   http://www.arisecomputer.com/http://www.araise.com
Ashware http://www.ashware.com TPU
Atlas Communication Engines     http://www.ace360.com
Avantech        http://www.avantech.com        Pentium
AVR Sprint      http://www.embedsys.com
Axiom Manufacturing     http://www.axman.com
Axiom Technology        http://www.axiomtek.com        pci, Data acquisition,
pentium
Bagotronix      http://www.bagotronix.com      Embedded Control -188
Basicon Inc.    http://www.basicon.com
Bipom   http://www.bipom.com   8051
Bittware Research Systems       http://www.bittware.com
Blue earth research     http://www.blueearthresearch.com       8051, 8052, Basic
boser   http://www.boser.com   x86
BVM limited     http://www.bvmltd.com
Carlo Gavazzi   http://www.carlogavazzi.com
Catalyst Enterprises    http://www.catalyst-ent.com
Celerity Systems        http://www.csidaq.com
Cell Computing  http://www.cellcomputing.com
CETIA   http://www.cetia.com
Cetia   http://www.cetia.com
Coactive networks       http://www.coactive.com
COMARK  http://www.comarkcorp.com
CompuLab        http://www.compulab.co.il      PC 486CORE
Concur systems  http://www.concursys.com
Connecticut Micro computers     http://www.2cmc.com    networking and swiches
Corelis http://www.corelis.com
Cyclone Microsystems    http://www.cyclone.com cPCI PCI VME
Densan  http://www.densan.com  cPCI VME
Densitron       http://www.densitron.com       rugged, pentium
Digital OEM Business Segment    http://www.digital.com/info/oem
Dy 4 Systems inc        http://www.dy4.com     VME SBC
Dynamic Engineering             mezzanine, PC/104,PCI
Dynatem http://www.dynatem.com VME SBC
EMAC    http://www.emacinc.com 188 x86+F37
Embedded Support Tools Corp     http://www.estc.com    dev tools
Embedex http://www.embedex.com
Embedtec        http://www.embedetec.com       PCI ISA
EMJ     emjembedded.com PC104
EMS     http://www.embededde-pc104.com PC104
Epson Electornic        http://www.eea.epson.com
Expert Electronics      http://www.expert-tw.com
Force Computers http://www.forcecomputers.com
Gateworks       http://www.gateworks.com
General Micro Systems   http://www.gms4vme.com VME SBC Sparc Sbus coldfire
Gespac  http://www.gespac.com
Global American http://www.global American.inc
Hectronic       http://www.hectronic.com
HiTech Equipment Corp   http://www.hte.com     SBC Emmulators 188 8051
Ibase   http://www.ibase-I.com.tw      pc104
I-Bus   http://www.ibus.com
Industrial Computers    http://www.or-computers.com
Industrial CPU Systems  http://www.icpu.com
Inside Technolgy USA    http://www.inside-us.com
Intec Automation        http://www.steroidmicro.com    embedded Power PC
Interlogic      http://www.infoview.com        SBC Backplanes, VME
Itox    http://www.itox.com
JED Microsystems        jedmicro.com
Jkmicrosystems  http://www.jkmicro.com Dos Linux
KG Systems      http://www.kgsystems.com       tiny tiger
Kinnetic Computers Corp http://www.kin.com     wirelwess WinCE
Lanner  http://www.lannerinc.com       ISA PC/104 PICmg
Libbert http://www.libbert-at.com      consultant, developer industrial sys
MATRIX corp.    http://www.matrix.com  Rugged WinCE
MCSI    http://www.mcsi1.com   CP Compatible
Megatel Computer Corp   http://www.megatel.ca  PCI PC/104 -332
Micro Computer Specialists      http://www.mcsil.com
micro Design    http://www.microdesignco.com   PCI PC/104
Micro Industries        http://www.microindustries.com
Micro Vention   http://www.microvention.com    micro bench tool kit for home
embedded
elec
Micro/sys       http://www.embeddedsys.com     PC/104 Pentium Small 8051
Microbus        http://www.microbus.com
Microdigital software           software
Micromint       http://www.micromint.com       embedded modems, TCP/IP RTC BCC
PicStic
Midwest Micro-Tek       http://www.midwestmicro-tek.com        188 controller used
by Artcturus
Momentum computers      http://www.momenco.com VME compactPCI
Mosaic Industries       http://www.mosaic-industries.com       touch
Motorola Computer group http://www.mcg.mot.com
MVS     http://www.mvsweb.com
National Instruments    http://www.natinst.com measurement
New Micros, Inc.        http://www.newmicros.com       Forth
Nu Horizons     http://www.nuhorizons.com      passive components manufactured by
Nippon
Industries Co., Ltd
nucleus http://www.nucleus1.com
Octagon Systems http://www.octagonsystems.com  rugged, palm, PC104 (bad guys)
OKW electronics http://www.okwelectronics.com
Onset   http://www.onsetcomp.com       data loggers, -332
O'S systems     http://www.ossystems.net
Paralax http://www.paralaxinc.com      Hobbiest, PIC
PC engines      http://www.pcengines.com
Pep Modular Computers   www.
Phytec  http://www.phytec.com/USAmerica/       8051 x86
PLC     http://www.tri-plc.com modbus distributed control system
Pond    http://www.pond.ie
quake Modular technologies      http://www.hypertechnologies.com
Rabbit  Rabbitsemiconductor.com Core tool modules with ethernet
Radisys http://www.radisys.com Pentium "total communication solution"
Real Time Devices       http://www.rtduse.com
Recortec        http://www.recortec.com        Pentium
Remote Processing       http://www.remotep.com,http://www.RP3.com     measurement
188
RES     http://www.RS485.com
Rigel   http://www.rigelcorp.com       8051
RLC     http://www.rlc.com
RMV     http://www.RMV.com
SBC Designs     http://www.sbcdesigns.com      scsi, RAID
SBS     http://www.sbs.com
Sea level       http://www.sealevel.com
Sinetic http://www.sinetics.com        rugged
Sirius Microsystems     http://www.siriusmicro.com     Pic Tools
Site Player     http://www.siteplayer.com      data acquisition
Sky Computers   http://www.sky.com
Smart Modular Technologies      http://www.smartm.com  Falsh 500 products
Square1 http://www.square1industries.com       celeron, 786
steatite        http://www.staetite.co.uk      Pentium
synergy micro systems   http://www.synergymicro.com    PCI, VME
Systran http://www.systran.com DSP
Technoland      http://www.technoland.com
Technologic Systems     http://www.t-systems.com
Teknor Industrial Computers, Inc.       http://www.teknor.com  PC on Board
tempustech      http://www.tempustech.com
Tern    http://www.tern.com    microcontrollers -188
Themis Computer http://www.themis.com  SPARC VME
Toronto Microelectronics - TME  http://www.tme-inc.com
Trenton         http://www.trentonprocessors.com       ISA PCI
Triangle Reasearch      http://www.tri-plc.com PLC
uclinux http://www.uclinux.com linux coldfire
Versa Logic     http://www.versalogic.com      PC/104, STD32BUS
Vesta Technology        http://www.vestatech.com       versatile PIC based, low
power, w/
powerful Basic & animated remote debug.  web site contains schematics,
datasheets, and manuals
vigilant        http://www.vigilanttech.com    PMC Motion
Vista Controls Corp.    http://www.vistacc.com

VMIC    http://www.vmic.com
Weeder  weedtech.com/   modular motion control
Win Enterprise  http://www.win-ent.com PC 104 WinCE
windriver               software
Winsys  http://www.winsystems.com      PC/104
xtech   http://www.xtechusa.com
ZF Microsystems http://www.zfmicro.com
Ziatech http://www.ziatech.com 1999 cPCI DSL sales $80million
Z-World http://www.zworld.com  embedded control & ethernet, -188 & -074*
zykronix        http://www.zykronix.com        PC compatible

Mina Nichols wrote:

 HI.
 EG3 http://www.cera2.com/index.html is pretty popular but I don't like
them
 because their rating systems is very much influenced by paid ads.  Of course
 magazines buyer's guides tend to have lots of information laid out in
 detailed charts, but they are also inclined to only tell you about companies
 that have paid their fees, besides, either yo get the mag or you don't.  You
 can't just go find it when you need it.
 My company, Vesta Techonolgy makes versatile, low-power, pic-based SBCs and
 I think that we do an excellent job of giving you all the information you
 might want on our web site (but then I maintain the web site, so I'm
 biased).  our site is http://www.vestatech.com.
 sorry I don't have a perfect answer for you.  However I do have this nifty
 chart of our competitors and their web sites:
 Company Web site        Key words
 AAEON Electronics       http://www.aaeon.com   PC/104
 Accelent sys    http://www.accelent.com        PCMCIA
 Acces IO        http://www.acces-usa.com
 Acqutek http://www.acqu.com    Backplane cameras displays pentium
 ACT Tecnico     http://www.acttechnico.com     PCI
 Actisys http://www.actisys.com
 ADAC    http://www.adac.com    PCI
 Adaptive Systems, Inc.  http://www.adaptivesystems.com x86
 Adastra http://www.adastra.com PC/104 PCI WinCE
 Adtron  http://www.adtron.com
 Advanced Design System  http://www.advdesignsolutions.com
 Advanced Digital Logic, Inc.    http://www.digitallogic.ch     Embedded PC
 Advantech       http://www.advantech.com
 Aerotech        http://www.aerothechusa.com
 Alacron http://www.alacron.com PCI, VME
 Algorythmic     http://www.algor.co.uk PCI, ISA,PCMCIA
 Alphi Technology        http://www.alphitech.com       PCI PC/104  VME
 Alta Technology http://www.altatech.com        PCI Mezzanine
 AM Reasearch    http://www.amresearch.com      Embedded Control
 American Predator       http://www.americanpreditor.com
 Ampro Computers http://www.ampro.com   PC, PC104, EBX
 analog devices  http://www.analog.com
 antona  http://www.antona.com
 Apex Embedded Systems   http://www.apexembedded.com
 Applied Data Systems    http://www.flatpanels.com      WinCE Flatpanels
 Applied Integrations    http://www.appliedi.com
 Appor   http://www.appro.com   network appliances
 Arbor Technology        http://www.arbor.com.tw/main/htm       pc/104
 Arcom Control Systems   http://www.arcom.co.uk/eg3
 Arise   http://www.arisecomputer.com/http://www.araise.com
 Ashware http://www.ashware.com TPU
 Atlas Communication Engines     http://www.ace360.com
 Avantech        http://www.avantech.com        Pentium
 AVR Sprint      http://www.embedsys.com
 Axiom Manufacturing     http://www.axman.com
 Axiom Technology        http://www.axiomtek.com        pci, Data acquisition,
pentium
 Bagotronix      http://www.bagotronix.com      Embedded Control -188
 Basicon Inc.    http://www.basicon.com
 Bipom   http://www.bipom.com   8051
 Bittware Research Systems       http://www.bittware.com
 Blue earth research     http://www.blueearthresearch.com       8051, 8052, Basic

 boser   http://www.boser.com   x86
 BVM limited     http://www.bvmltd.com
 Carlo Gavazzi   http://www.carlogavazzi.com
 Catalyst Enterprises    http://www.catalyst-ent.com
 Celerity Systems        http://www.csidaq.com
 Cell Computing  http://www.cellcomputing.com
 CETIA   http://www.cetia.com
 Cetia   http://www.cetia.com
 Coactive networks       http://www.coactive.com
 COMARK  http://www.comarkcorp.com
 CompuLab        http://www.compulab.co.il      PC 486CORE
 Concur systems  http://www.concursys.com
 Connecticut Micro computers     http://www.2cmc.com    networking and swiches
 Corelis http://www.corelis.com
 Cyclone Microsystems    http://www.cyclone.com cPCI PCI VME
 Densan  http://www.densan.com  cPCI VME
 Densitron       http://www.densitron.com       rugged, pentium
 Digital OEM Business Segment    http://www.digital.com/info/oem
 Dy 4 Systems inc        http://www.dy4.com     VME SBC
 Dynamic Engineering             mezzanine, PC/104,PCI
 Dynatem http://www.dynatem.com VME SBC
 EMAC    http://www.emacinc.com 188 x86+F37
 Embedded Support Tools Corp     http://www.estc.com    dev tools
 Embedex http://www.embedex.com
 Embedtec        http://www.embedetec.com       PCI ISA
 EMJ     emjembedded.com PC104
 EMS     http://www.embededde-pc104.com PC104
 Epson Electornic        http://www.eea.epson.com
 Expert Electronics      http://www.expert-tw.com
 Force Computers http://www.forcecomputers.com
 Gateworks       http://www.gateworks.com
 General Micro Systems   http://www.gms4vme.com VME SBC Sparc Sbus coldfire
 Gespac  http://www.gespac.com
 Global American http://www.global American.inc
 Hectronic       http://www.hectronic.com
 HiTech Equipment Corp   http://www.hte.com     SBC Emmulators 188 8051
 Ibase   http://www.ibase-I.com.tw      pc104
 I-Bus   http://www.ibus.com
 Industrial Computers    http://www.or-computers.com
 Industrial CPU Systems  http://www.icpu.com
 Inside Technolgy USA    http://www.inside-us.com
 Intec Automation        http://www.steroidmicro.com    embedded Power PC
 Interlogic      http://www.infoview.com        SBC Backplanes, VME
 Itox    http://www.itox.com
 JED Microsystems        jedmicro.com
 Jkmicrosystems  http://www.jkmicro.com Dos Linux
 KG Systems      http://www.kgsystems.com       tiny tiger
 Kinnetic Computers Corp http://www.kin.com     wirelwess WinCE
 Lanner  http://www.lannerinc.com       ISA PC/104 PICmg
 Libbert http://www.libbert-at.com      consultant, developer industrial sys
 MATRIX corp.    http://www.matrix.com  Rugged WinCE
 MCSI    http://www.mcsi1.com   CP Compatible
 Megatel Computer Corp   http://www.megatel.ca  PCI PC/104 -332
 Micro Computer Specialists      http://www.mcsil.com
 micro Design    http://www.microdesignco.com   PCI PC/104
 Micro Industries        http://www.microindustries.com
 Micro Vention   http://www.microvention.com    micro bench tool kit for home
embedded
 elec
 Micro/sys       http://www.embeddedsys.com     PC/104 Pentium Small 8051
 Microbus        http://www.microbus.com
 Microdigital software           software
 Micromint       http://www.micromint.com       embedded modems, TCP/IP RTC BCC
PicStic
 Midwest Micro-Tek       http://www.midwestmicro-tek.com        188 controller
used by Artcturus
 Momentum computers      http://www.momenco.com VME compactPCI
 Mosaic Industries       http://www.mosaic-industries.com       touch
 Motorola Computer group http://www.mcg.mot.com
 MVS     http://www.mvsweb.com
 National Instruments    http://www.natinst.com measurement
 New Micros, Inc.        http://www.newmicros.com       Forth
 Nu Horizons     http://www.nuhorizons.com      passive components manufactured
by Nippon
 Industries Co., Ltd
 nucleus http://www.nucleus1.com
 Octagon Systems http://www.octagonsystems.com  rugged, palm, PC104 (bad guys)
 OKW electronics http://www.okwelectronics.com
 Onset   http://www.onsetcomp.com       data loggers, -332
 O'S systems     http://www.ossystems.net
 Paralax http://www.paralaxinc.com      Hobbiest, PIC
 PC engines      http://www.pcengines.com
 Pep Modular Computers   www.
 Phytec  http://www.phytec.com/USAmerica/       8051 x86
 PLC     http://www.tri-plc.com modbus distributed control system
 Pond    http://www.pond.ie
 quake Modular technologies      http://www.hypertechnologies.com
 Rabbit  Rabbitsemiconductor.com Core tool modules with ethernet
 Radisys http://www.radisys.com Pentium "total communication solution"
 Real Time Devices       http://www.rtduse.com
 Recortec        http://www.recortec.com        Pentium
 Remote Processing       http://www.remotep.com,http://www.RP3.com
measurement 188
 RES     http://www.RS485.com
 Rigel   http://www.rigelcorp.com       8051
 RLC     http://www.rlc.com
 RMV     http://www.RMV.com
 SBC Designs     http://www.sbcdesigns.com      scsi, RAID
 SBS     http://www.sbs.com
 Sea level       http://www.sealevel.com
 Sinetic http://www.sinetics.com        rugged
 Sirius Microsystems     http://www.siriusmicro.com     Pic Tools
 Site Player     http://www.siteplayer.com      data acquisition
 Sky Computers   http://www.sky.com
 Smart Modular Technologies      http://www.smartm.com  Falsh 500 products
 Square1 http://www.square1industries.com       celeron, 786
 steatite        http://www.staetite.co.uk      Pentium
 synergy micro systems   http://www.synergymicro.com    PCI, VME
 Systran http://www.systran.com DSP
 Technoland      http://www.technoland.com
 Technologic Systems     http://www.t-systems.com
 Teknor Industrial Computers, Inc.       http://www.teknor.com  PC on Board
 tempustech      http://www.tempustech.com
 Tern    http://www.tern.com    microcontrollers -188
 Themis Computer http://www.themis.com  SPARC VME
 Toronto Microelectronics - TME  http://www.tme-inc.com
 Trenton         http://www.trentonprocessors.com       ISA PCI
 Triangle Reasearch      http://www.tri-plc.com PLC
 uclinux http://www.uclinux.com linux coldfire
 Versa Logic     http://www.versalogic.com      PC/104, STD32BUS
 Vesta Technology        http://www.vestatech.com       versatile PIC based, low
power, w/
 powerful Basic & animated remote debug.  web site contains schematics,
 datasheets, and manuals
 vigilant        http://www.vigilanttech.com    PMC Motion
 Vista Controls Corp.    http://www.vistacc.com

 VMIC    http://www.vmic.com
 Weeder  weedtech.com/   modular motion control
 Win Enterprise  http://www.win-ent.com PC 104 WinCE
 windriver               software
 Winsys  http://www.winsystems.com      PC/104
 xtech   http://www.xtechusa.com
 ZF Microsystems http://www.zfmicro.com
 Ziatech http://www.ziatech.com 1999 cPCI DSL sales $80million
 Z-World http://www.zworld.com  embedded control & ethernet, -188 & -074*
 zykronix        http://www.zykronix.com        PC compatible

 -Mina Nichols
 Vesta Technology

 {Original Message removed}

2001\12\24@172425 by Brent Brown

picon face
That's interesting - in Pegasus Mail only the first 30 or so links
are highlighted then it appears to sigh and give up on the rest. PM
was written by David Harris - that's no the same you is it?

On 24 Dec 2001 at 9:28, David P. Harris wrote:

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>   {Original Message removed}

2001\12\24@175155 by Dave

picon face
Yeah, one of my many clones aound the world!  I'm in Canada, I think he's in
the southern hemisphere.  I should really use Pegasus!
David

Brent Brown wrote:

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> >   {Original Message removed}

2001\12\25@085638 by miked

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face
I see them all(Pegasus Mail v4.01) in no MIME digest mode. Some
time back the PICLIST developed a problem that made Pegasus
unable to see past the first 24 lines in MIME digest mode.

On 25 Dec 2001 at 0:02, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>
> Subject: Re: [EE]: Microcontroller  selector guides
> That's interesting - in Pegasus Mail only the first 30 or so links
> are highlighted then it appears to sigh and give up on the rest. PM
> was written by David Harris - that's no the same you is it?
>

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