>
> I'm on the search again for a microcontroller for a project.
>
> Has anyone got a reference to a selector guide which covers the features of
> a wide range of avail;able processors in a single place. Everyone is happy
> (enough) to tell you what they sell but you can spend a lot of time looking
> for all reasonable alternatives.
>
> FWIW my spec is
>
> Cost sensitive - ideally <= $US1 in 10k quantity
>
> MUST have 1 channel of 5 kHz real-time PWM capability. Resolution COULD be
> as low as around 5% steps but finer would be better (say 8 bits). [5 kHz at
> 5% duty cycle is 10 uS per step so one might ALMOST do this in software with
> a suitably fast cpu but as there are several realtimish tasks a timer based
> PWM is much preferred]. A second PWM channel would be nice but is not
> essential.
>
> A2D (8 bit OK) would be extremely desirable but not strictly essential
>
> Flash would be nice but OTP ok
>
> EEROM would be nice but not essential
>
> RC clock operation desirable.
>
> Anti brownout and inbuilt power on reset desirable.
>
> Cost sensitive
>
> UART nice but not ....
>
> IIC not really needed but if it was there ...
>
> Code memory of 1K probably OK.
>
> Limited RAM needed.
>
> Cost sensitive ... :-)
>
> SOIC packaging for production. Availability of DIP for initial prototyping
> would be useful.
>
> Reasonable (ie low $ or free :-) ) priced development tools desirable.
> Assembler OK, free or cheap C etc would not be unwelcome.
>
> OTP / Flash and mask versions would be useful.
>
> Manufacturer not in Chapter 11 or any variant thereof would be nice :-)
>
> Technically responsive supplier would be useful.
>
> My feeling is that any PIC which meets the hardware spec tends to fail the
> price spec.
>
>       Russell McMahon
> _____________________________
>
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>
> HI.
> EG3 http://www.cera2.com/index.html is pretty popular but I don't like them
> because their rating systems is very much influenced by paid ads.  Of course
> magazines buyer's guides tend to have lots of information laid out in
> detailed charts, but they are also inclined to only tell you about companies
> that have paid their fees, besides, either yo get the mag or you don't.  You
> can't just go find it when you need it.
> My company, Vesta Techonolgy makes versatile, low-power, pic-based SBCs and
> I think that we do an excellent job of giving you all the information you
> might want on our web site (but then I maintain the web site, so I'm
> biased).  our site is http://www.vestatech.com.
> sorry I don't have a perfect answer for you.  However I do have this nifty
> chart of our competitors and their web sites:
> Company Web site        Key words
> AAEON Electronics       http://www.aaeon.com   PC/104

> Hi-
> Here's the list.
> I just did a global substitution on the www's.
> David
>
> AAEON Electronics       http://www.aaeon.com   PC/104
> Accelent sys    http://www.accelent.com        PCMCIA
> Acces IO        http://www.acces-usa.com
> Acqutek http://www.acqu.com    Backplane cameras displays pentium ACT
> Tecnico     http://www.acttechnico.com     PCI Actisys
> http://www.actisys.com ADAC    http://www.adac.com    PCI Adaptive
> Systems, Inc.  http://www.adaptivesystems.com x86 Adastra
> http://www.adastra.com PC/104 PCI WinCE Adtron  http://www.adtron.com
> Advanced Design System  http://www.advdesignsolutions.com Advanced
> Digital Logic, Inc.    http://www.digitallogic.ch     Embedded PC
> Advantech       http://www.advantech.com Aerotech
> http://www.aerothechusa.com Alacron http://www.alacron.com PCI, VME
> Algorythmic     http://www.algor.co.uk PCI, ISA,PCMCIA Alphi
> Technology        http://www.alphitech.com       PCI PC/104  VME Alta
> Technology http://www.altatech.com        PCI Mezzanine AM Reasearch
>  http://www.amresearch.com      Embedded Control American Predator
>   http://www.americanpreditor.com Ampro Computers http://www.ampro.com
>   PC, PC104, EBX analog devices  http://www.analog.com antona
> http://www.antona.com Apex Embedded Systems
> http://www.apexembedded.com Applied Data Systems
> http://www.flatpanels.com      WinCE Flatpanels Applied Integrations
>  http://www.appliedi.com Appor   http://www.appro.com   network
> appliances Arbor Technology        http://www.arbor.com.tw/main/htm
>    pc/104 Arcom Control Systems   http://www.arcom.co.uk/eg3 Arise
> http://www.arisecomputer.com/http://www.araise.com Ashware
> http://www.ashware.com TPU Atlas Communication Engines
> http://www.ace360.com Avantech        http://www.avantech.com
> Pentium AVR Sprint      http://www.embedsys.com Axiom Manufacturing
>  http://www.axman.com Axiom Technology        http://www.axiomtek.com
>       pci, Data acquisition, pentium Bagotronix
> http://www.bagotronix.com      Embedded Control -188 Basicon Inc.
> http://www.basicon.com Bipom   http://www.bipom.com   8051 Bittware
> Research Systems       http://www.bittware.com Blue earth research
> http://www.blueearthresearch.com       8051, 8052, Basic boser
> http://www.boser.com   x86 BVM limited     http://www.bvmltd.com Carlo
> Gavazzi   http://www.carlogavazzi.com Catalyst Enterprises
> http://www.catalyst-ent.com Celerity Systems
> http://www.csidaq.com Cell Computing  http://www.cellcomputing.com
> CETIA   http://www.cetia.com Cetia   http://www.cetia.com Coactive
> networks       http://www.coactive.com COMARK
> http://www.comarkcorp.com CompuLab        http://www.compulab.co.il
>   PC 486CORE Concur systems  http://www.concursys.com Connecticut
> Micro computers     http://www.2cmc.com    networking and swiches
> Corelis http://www.corelis.com Cyclone Microsystems
> http://www.cyclone.com cPCI PCI VME Densan  http://www.densan.com
> cPCI VME Densitron       http://www.densitron.com       rugged,
> pentium Digital OEM Business Segment
> http://www.digital.com/info/oem Dy 4 Systems inc
> http://www.dy4.com     VME SBC Dynamic Engineering
> mezzanine, PC/104,PCI Dynatem http://www.dynatem.com VME SBC EMAC
> http://www.emacinc.com 188 x86+F37 Embedded Support Tools Corp
> http://www.estc.com    dev tools Embedex http://www.embedex.com
> Embedtec        http://www.embedetec.com       PCI ISA EMJ
> emjembedded.com PC104 EMS     http://www.embededde-pc104.com PC104
> Epson Electornic        http://www.eea.epson.com Expert Electronics
>   http://www.expert-tw.com Force Computers
> http://www.forcecomputers.com Gateworks       http://www.gateworks.com
> General Micro Systems   http://www.gms4vme.com VME SBC Sparc Sbus
> coldfire Gespac  http://www.gespac.com Global American
> http://www.global American.inc Hectronic
> http://www.hectronic.com HiTech Equipment Corp   http://www.hte.com
>  SBC Emmulators 188 8051 Ibase   http://www.ibase-I.com.tw      pc104
> I-Bus   http://www.ibus.com Industrial Computers
> http://www.or-computers.com Industrial CPU Systems
> http://www.icpu.com Inside Technolgy USA    http://www.inside-us.com
> Intec Automation        http://www.steroidmicro.com    embedded Power
> PC Interlogic      http://www.infoview.com        SBC Backplanes, VME
> Itox    http://www.itox.com JED Microsystems        jedmicro.com
> Jkmicrosystems  http://www.jkmicro.com Dos Linux KG Systems
> http://www.kgsystems.com       tiny tiger Kinnetic Computers Corp
> http://www.kin.com     wirelwess WinCE Lanner
> http://www.lannerinc.com       ISA PC/104 PICmg Libbert
> http://www.libbert-at.com      consultant, developer industrial sys
> MATRIX corp.    http://www.matrix.com  Rugged WinCE MCSI
> http://www.mcsi1.com   CP Compatible Megatel Computer Corp
> http://www.megatel.ca  PCI PC/104 -332 Micro Computer Specialists
> http://www.mcsil.com micro Design    http://www.microdesignco.com
> PCI PC/104 Micro Industries        http://www.microindustries.com
> Micro Vention   http://www.microvention.com    micro bench tool kit
> for home embedded elec Micro/sys       http://www.embeddedsys.com
> PC/104 Pentium Small 8051 Microbus        http://www.microbus.com
> Microdigital software           software Micromint
> http://www.micromint.com       embedded modems, TCP/IP RTC BCC PicStic
> Midwest Micro-Tek       http://www.midwestmicro-tek.com        188
> controller used by Artcturus Momentum computers
> http://www.momenco.com VME compactPCI Mosaic Industries
> http://www.mosaic-industries.com       touch Motorola Computer group
> http://www.mcg.mot.com MVS     http://www.mvsweb.com National
> Instruments    http://www.natinst.com measurement New Micros, Inc.
>    http://www.newmicros.com       Forth Nu Horizons
> http://www.nuhorizons.com      passive components manufactured by
> Nippon Industries Co., Ltd nucleus http://www.nucleus1.com Octagon
> Systems http://www.octagonsystems.com  rugged, palm, PC104 (bad guys)
> OKW electronics http://www.okwelectronics.com Onset
> http://www.onsetcomp.com       data loggers, -332 O'S systems
> http://www.ossystems.net Paralax http://www.paralaxinc.com
> Hobbiest, PIC PC engines      http://www.pcengines.com Pep Modular
> Computers   www. Phytec  http://www.phytec.com/USAmerica/
> 8051 x86 PLC     http://www.tri-plc.com modbus distributed control
> system Pond    http://www.pond.ie quake Modular technologies
> http://www.hypertechnologies.com Rabbit  Rabbitsemiconductor.com Core
> tool modules with ethernet Radisys http://www.radisys.com Pentium
> "total communication solution" Real Time Devices
> http://www.rtduse.com Recortec        http://www.recortec.com
> Pentium Remote Processing
> http://www.remotep.com,http://www.RP3.com     measurement 188 RES
> http://www.RS485.com Rigel   http://www.rigelcorp.com       8051 RLC
>   http://www.rlc.com RMV     http://www.RMV.com SBC Designs
> http://www.sbcdesigns.com      scsi, RAID SBS     http://www.sbs.com
> Sea level       http://www.sealevel.com Sinetic
> http://www.sinetics.com        rugged Sirius Microsystems
> http://www.siriusmicro.com     Pic Tools Site Player
> http://www.siteplayer.com      data acquisition Sky Computers
> http://www.sky.com Smart Modular Technologies
> http://www.smartm.com  Falsh 500 products Square1
> http://www.square1industries.com       celeron, 786 steatite
> http://www.staetite.co.uk      Pentium synergy micro systems
> http://www.synergymicro.com    PCI, VME Systran http://www.systran.com
> DSP Technoland      http://www.technoland.com Technologic Systems
> http://www.t-systems.com Teknor Industrial Computers, Inc.
> http://www.teknor.com  PC on Board tempustech
> http://www.tempustech.com Tern    http://www.tern.com
> microcontrollers -188 Themis Computer http://www.themis.com  SPARC VME
> Toronto Microelectronics - TME  http://www.tme-inc.com Trenton
> http://www.trentonprocessors.com       ISA PCI Triangle Reasearch
> http://www.tri-plc.com PLC uclinux http://www.uclinux.com linux
> coldfire Versa Logic     http://www.versalogic.com      PC/104,
> STD32BUS Vesta Technology        http://www.vestatech.com
> versatile PIC based, low power, w/ powerful Basic & animated remote
> debug.  web site contains schematics, datasheets, and manuals vigilant
>        http://www.vigilanttech.com    PMC Motion Vista Controls Corp.
>   http://www.vistacc.com
>
> VMIC    http://www.vmic.com
> Weeder  weedtech.com/   modular motion control
> Win Enterprise  http://www.win-ent.com PC 104 WinCE
> windriver               software
> Winsys  http://www.winsystems.com      PC/104
> xtech   http://www.xtechusa.com
> ZF Microsystems http://www.zfmicro.com
> Ziatech http://www.ziatech.com 1999 cPCI DSL sales $80million
> Z-World http://www.zworld.com  embedded control & ethernet, -188 &
> -074* zykronix        http://www.zykronix.com        PC compatible
>
> Mina Nichols wrote:
>
>   HI.
>   EG3 http://www.cera2.com/index.html is pretty popular but I
>   don't like
> them
>   because their rating systems is very much influenced by paid ads.
>   Of course magazines buyer's guides tend to have lots of information
>   laid out in detailed charts, but they are also inclined to only tell
>   you about companies that have paid their fees, besides, either yo
>   get the mag or you don't.  You can't just go find it when you need
>   it. My company, Vesta Techonolgy makes versatile, low-power,
>   pic-based SBCs and I think that we do an excellent job of giving you
>   all the information you might want on our web site (but then I
>   maintain the web site, so I'm biased).  our site is
>   http://www.vestatech.com. sorry I don't have a perfect answer for
>   you.  However I do have this nifty chart of our competitors and
>   their web sites: Company Web site        Key words AAEON Electronics
>         http://www.aaeon.com   PC/104 Accelent sys
>   http://www.accelent.com        PCMCIA Acces IO
>   http://www.acces-usa.com Acqutek http://www.acqu.com    Backplane
>   cameras displays pentium ACT Tecnico     http://www.acttechnico.com
>      PCI Actisys http://www.actisys.com ADAC    http://www.adac.com
>   PCI Adaptive Systems, Inc.  http://www.adaptivesystems.com x86
>   Adastra http://www.adastra.com PC/104 PCI WinCE Adtron
>   http://www.adtron.com Advanced Design System
>   http://www.advdesignsolutions.com Advanced Digital Logic, Inc.
>   http://www.digitallogic.ch     Embedded PC Advantech
>   http://www.advantech.com Aerotech        http://www.aerothechusa.com
>   Alacron http://www.alacron.com PCI, VME Algorythmic
>   http://www.algor.co.uk PCI, ISA,PCMCIA Alphi Technology
>   http://www.alphitech.com       PCI PC/104  VME Alta Technology
>   http://www.altatech.com        PCI Mezzanine AM Reasearch
>   http://www.amresearch.com      Embedded Control American Predator
>      http://www.americanpreditor.com Ampro Computers
>   http://www.ampro.com   PC, PC104, EBX analog devices
>   http://www.analog.com antona  http://www.antona.com Apex Embedded
>   Systems   http://www.apexembedded.com Applied Data Systems
>   http://www.flatpanels.com      WinCE Flatpanels Applied Integrations
>      http://www.appliedi.com Appor   http://www.appro.com   network
>   appliances Arbor Technology        http://www.arbor.com.tw/main/htm
>        pc/104 Arcom Control Systems   http://www.arcom.co.uk/eg3 Arise
>     http://www.arisecomputer.com/http://www.araise.com Ashware
>   http://www.ashware.com TPU Atlas Communication Engines
>   http://www.ace360.com Avantech        http://www.avantech.com
>   Pentium AVR Sprint      http://www.embedsys.com Axiom Manufacturing
>      http://www.axman.com Axiom Technology
>   http://www.axiomtek.com        pci, Data acquisition,
> pentium
>   Bagotronix      http://www.bagotronix.com      Embedded Control -188
>   Basicon Inc.    http://www.basicon.com Bipom   http://www.bipom.com
>    8051 Bittware Research Systems       http://www.bittware.com Blue
>   earth research     http://www.blueearthresearch.com       8051,
>   8052, Basic
>
>   boser   http://www.boser.com   x86
>   BVM limited     http://www.bvmltd.com
>   Carlo Gavazzi   http://www.carlogavazzi.com
>   Catalyst Enterprises    http://www.catalyst-ent.com
>   Celerity Systems        http://www.csidaq.com
>   Cell Computing  http://www.cellcomputing.com
>   CETIA   http://www.cetia.com
>   Cetia   http://www.cetia.com
>   Coactive networks       http://www.coactive.com
>   COMARK  http://www.comarkcorp.com
>   CompuLab        http://www.compulab.co.il      PC 486CORE
>   Concur systems  http://www.concursys.com
>   Connecticut Micro computers     http://www.2cmc.com    networking
>   and swiches Corelis http://www.corelis.com Cyclone Microsystems
>   http://www.cyclone.com cPCI PCI VME Densan  http://www.densan.com
>   cPCI VME Densitron       http://www.densitron.com       rugged,
>   pentium Digital OEM Business Segment
>   http://www.digital.com/info/oem Dy 4 Systems inc
>   http://www.dy4.com     VME SBC Dynamic Engineering
>   mezzanine, PC/104,PCI Dynatem http://www.dynatem.com VME SBC EMAC
>   http://www.emacinc.com 188 x86+F37 Embedded Support Tools Corp
>   http://www.estc.com    dev tools Embedex http://www.embedex.com
>   Embedtec        http://www.embedetec.com       PCI ISA EMJ
>   emjembedded.com PC104 EMS     http://www.embededde-pc104.com PC104
>   Epson Electornic        http://www.eea.epson.com Expert Electronics
>       http://www.expert-tw.com Force Computers
>   http://www.forcecomputers.com Gateworks
>   http://www.gateworks.com General Micro Systems
>   http://www.gms4vme.com VME SBC Sparc Sbus coldfire Gespac
>   http://www.gespac.com Global American http://www.global American.inc
>   Hectronic       http://www.hectronic.com HiTech Equipment Corp
>   http://www.hte.com     SBC Emmulators 188 8051 Ibase
>   http://www.ibase-I.com.tw      pc104 I-Bus   http://www.ibus.com
>   Industrial Computers    http://www.or-computers.com Industrial CPU
>   Systems  http://www.icpu.com Inside Technolgy USA
>   http://www.inside-us.com Intec Automation
>   http://www.steroidmicro.com    embedded Power PC Interlogic
>   http://www.infoview.com        SBC Backplanes, VME Itox
>   http://www.itox.com JED Microsystems        jedmicro.com
>   Jkmicrosystems  http://www.jkmicro.com Dos Linux KG Systems
>   http://www.kgsystems.com       tiny tiger Kinnetic Computers Corp
>   http://www.kin.com     wirelwess WinCE Lanner
>   http://www.lannerinc.com       ISA PC/104 PICmg Libbert
>   http://www.libbert-at.com      consultant, developer industrial sys
>   MATRIX corp.    http://www.matrix.com  Rugged WinCE MCSI
>   http://www.mcsi1.com   CP Compatible Megatel Computer Corp
>   http://www.megatel.ca  PCI PC/104 -332 Micro Computer Specialists
>     http://www.mcsil.com micro Design    http://www.microdesignco.com
>    PCI PC/104 Micro Industries        http://www.microindustries.com
>   Micro Vention   http://www.microvention.com    micro bench tool kit
>   for home
> embedded
>   elec
>   Micro/sys       http://www.embeddedsys.com     PC/104 Pentium Small
>   8051 Microbus        http://www.microbus.com Microdigital software
>           software Micromint       http://www.micromint.com
>   embedded modems, TCP/IP RTC BCC
> PicStic
>   Midwest Micro-Tek       http://www.midwestmicro-tek.com        188
>   controller
> used by Artcturus
>   Momentum computers      http://www.momenco.com VME compactPCI
>   Mosaic Industries       http://www.mosaic-industries.com       touch
>   Motorola Computer group http://www.mcg.mot.com MVS
>   http://www.mvsweb.com National Instruments    http://www.natinst.com
>   measurement New Micros, Inc.        http://www.newmicros.com
>   Forth Nu Horizons     http://www.nuhorizons.com      passive
>   components manufactured
> by Nippon
>   Industries Co., Ltd
>   nucleus http://www.nucleus1.com
>   Octagon Systems http://www.octagonsystems.com  rugged, palm, PC104
>   (bad guys) OKW electronics http://www.okwelectronics.com Onset
>   http://www.onsetcomp.com       data loggers, -332 O'S systems
>   http://www.ossystems.net Paralax http://www.paralaxinc.com
>   Hobbiest, PIC PC engines      http://www.pcengines.com Pep Modular
>   Computers   www. Phytec  http://www.phytec.com/USAmerica/
>     8051 x86 PLC     http://www.tri-plc.com modbus distributed control
>   system Pond    http://www.pond.ie quake Modular technologies
>   http://www.hypertechnologies.com Rabbit  Rabbitsemiconductor.com
>   Core tool modules with ethernet Radisys http://www.radisys.com
>   Pentium "total communication solution" Real Time Devices
>   http://www.rtduse.com Recortec        http://www.recortec.com
>   Pentium Remote Processing
>   http://www.remotep.com,http://www.RP3.com
> measurement 188
>   RES     http://www.RS485.com
>   Rigel   http://www.rigelcorp.com       8051
>   RLC     http://www.rlc.com
>   RMV     http://www.RMV.com
>   SBC Designs     http://www.sbcdesigns.com      scsi, RAID
>   SBS     http://www.sbs.com
>   Sea level       http://www.sealevel.com
>   Sinetic http://www.sinetics.com        rugged
>   Sirius Microsystems     http://www.siriusmicro.com     Pic Tools
>   Site Player     http://www.siteplayer.com      data acquisition Sky
>   Computers   http://www.sky.com Smart Modular Technologies
>   http://www.smartm.com  Falsh 500 products Square1
>   http://www.square1industries.com       celeron, 786 steatite
>   http://www.staetite.co.uk      Pentium synergy micro systems
>   http://www.synergymicro.com    PCI, VME Systran
>   http://www.systran.com DSP Technoland      http://www.technoland.com
>   Technologic Systems     http://www.t-systems.com Teknor Industrial
>   Computers, Inc.       http://www.teknor.com  PC on Board tempustech
>       http://www.tempustech.com Tern    http://www.tern.com
>   microcontrollers -188 Themis Computer http://www.themis.com  SPARC
>   VME Toronto Microelectronics - TME  http://www.tme-inc.com Trenton
>         http://www.trentonprocessors.com       ISA PCI Triangle
>   Reasearch      http://www.tri-plc.com PLC uclinux
>   http://www.uclinux.com linux coldfire Versa Logic
>   http://www.versalogic.com      PC/104, STD32BUS Vesta Technology
>      http://www.vestatech.com       versatile PIC based, low
> power, w/
>   powerful Basic & animated remote debug.  web site contains
>   schematics, datasheets, and manuals vigilant
>   http://www.vigilanttech.com    PMC Motion Vista Controls Corp.
>   http://www.vistacc.com
>
>   VMIC    http://www.vmic.com
>   Weeder  weedtech.com/   modular motion control
>   Win Enterprise  http://www.win-ent.com PC 104 WinCE
>   windriver               software
>   Winsys  http://www.winsystems.com      PC/104
>   xtech   http://www.xtechusa.com
>   ZF Microsystems http://www.zfmicro.com
>   Ziatech http://www.ziatech.com 1999 cPCI DSL sales $80million
>   Z-World http://www.zworld.com  embedded control & ethernet, -188 &
>   -074* zykronix        http://www.zykronix.com        PC compatible
>
>   -Mina Nichols
>   Vesta Technology
>

> That's interesting - in Pegasus Mail only the first 30 or so links
> are highlighted then it appears to sigh and give up on the rest. PM
> was written by David Harris - that's no the same you is it?
>
> On 24 Dec 2001 at 9:28, David P. Harris wrote:
>
> > Hi-
> > Here's the list.
> > I just did a global substitution on the www's.
> > David
> >
> > AAEON Electronics       http://www.aaeon.com   PC/104
> > Accelent sys    http://www.accelent.com        PCMCIA
> > Acces IO        http://www.acces-usa.com
> > Acqutek http://www.acqu.com    Backplane cameras displays pentium ACT
> > Tecnico     http://www.acttechnico.com     PCI Actisys
> > http://www.actisys.com ADAC    http://www.adac.com    PCI Adaptive
> > Systems, Inc.  http://www.adaptivesystems.com x86 Adastra
> > http://www.adastra.com PC/104 PCI WinCE Adtron  http://www.adtron.com
> > Advanced Design System  http://www.advdesignsolutions.com Advanced
> > Digital Logic, Inc.    http://www.digitallogic.ch     Embedded PC
> > Advantech       http://www.advantech.com Aerotech
> > http://www.aerothechusa.com Alacron http://www.alacron.com PCI, VME
> > Algorythmic     http://www.algor.co.uk PCI, ISA,PCMCIA Alphi
> > Technology        http://www.alphitech.com       PCI PC/104  VME Alta
> > Technology http://www.altatech.com        PCI Mezzanine AM Reasearch
> >  http://www.amresearch.com      Embedded Control American Predator
> >   http://www.americanpreditor.com Ampro Computers http://www.ampro.com
> >   PC, PC104, EBX analog devices  http://www.analog.com antona
> > http://www.antona.com Apex Embedded Systems
> > http://www.apexembedded.com Applied Data Systems
> > http://www.flatpanels.com      WinCE Flatpanels Applied Integrations
> >  http://www.appliedi.com Appor   http://www.appro.com   network
> > appliances Arbor Technology        http://www.arbor.com.tw/main/htm
> >    pc/104 Arcom Control Systems   http://www.arcom.co.uk/eg3 Arise
> > http://www.arisecomputer.com/http://www.araise.com Ashware
> > http://www.ashware.com TPU Atlas Communication Engines
> > http://www.ace360.com Avantech        http://www.avantech.com
> > Pentium AVR Sprint      http://www.embedsys.com Axiom Manufacturing
> >  http://www.axman.com Axiom Technology        http://www.axiomtek.com
> >       pci, Data acquisition, pentium Bagotronix
> > http://www.bagotronix.com      Embedded Control -188 Basicon Inc.
> > http://www.basicon.com Bipom   http://www.bipom.com   8051 Bittware
> > Research Systems       http://www.bittware.com Blue earth research
> > http://www.blueearthresearch.com       8051, 8052, Basic boser
> > http://www.boser.com   x86 BVM limited     http://www.bvmltd.com Carlo
> > Gavazzi   http://www.carlogavazzi.com Catalyst Enterprises
> > http://www.catalyst-ent.com Celerity Systems
> > http://www.csidaq.com Cell Computing  http://www.cellcomputing.com
> > CETIA   http://www.cetia.com Cetia   http://www.cetia.com Coactive
> > networks       http://www.coactive.com COMARK
> > http://www.comarkcorp.com CompuLab        http://www.compulab.co.il
> >   PC 486CORE Concur systems  http://www.concursys.com Connecticut
> > Micro computers     http://www.2cmc.com    networking and swiches
> > Corelis http://www.corelis.com Cyclone Microsystems
> > http://www.cyclone.com cPCI PCI VME Densan  http://www.densan.com
> > cPCI VME Densitron       http://www.densitron.com       rugged,
> > pentium Digital OEM Business Segment
> > http://www.digital.com/info/oem Dy 4 Systems inc
> > http://www.dy4.com     VME SBC Dynamic Engineering
> > mezzanine, PC/104,PCI Dynatem http://www.dynatem.com VME SBC EMAC
> > http://www.emacinc.com 188 x86+F37 Embedded Support Tools Corp
> > http://www.estc.com    dev tools Embedex http://www.embedex.com
> > Embedtec        http://www.embedetec.com       PCI ISA EMJ
> > emjembedded.com PC104 EMS     http://www.embededde-pc104.com PC104
> > Epson Electornic        http://www.eea.epson.com Expert Electronics
> >   http://www.expert-tw.com Force Computers
> > http://www.forcecomputers.com Gateworks       http://www.gateworks.com
> > General Micro Systems   http://www.gms4vme.com VME SBC Sparc Sbus
> > coldfire Gespac  http://www.gespac.com Global American
> > http://www.global American.inc Hectronic
> > http://www.hectronic.com HiTech Equipment Corp   http://www.hte.com
> >  SBC Emmulators 188 8051 Ibase   http://www.ibase-I.com.tw      pc104
> > I-Bus   http://www.ibus.com Industrial Computers
> > http://www.or-computers.com Industrial CPU Systems
> > http://www.icpu.com Inside Technolgy USA    http://www.inside-us.com
> > Intec Automation        http://www.steroidmicro.com    embedded Power
> > PC Interlogic      http://www.infoview.com        SBC Backplanes, VME
> > Itox    http://www.itox.com JED Microsystems        jedmicro.com
> > Jkmicrosystems  http://www.jkmicro.com Dos Linux KG Systems
> > http://www.kgsystems.com       tiny tiger Kinnetic Computers Corp
> > http://www.kin.com     wirelwess WinCE Lanner
> > http://www.lannerinc.com       ISA PC/104 PICmg Libbert
> > http://www.libbert-at.com      consultant, developer industrial sys
> > MATRIX corp.    http://www.matrix.com  Rugged WinCE MCSI
> > http://www.mcsi1.com   CP Compatible Megatel Computer Corp
> > http://www.megatel.ca  PCI PC/104 -332 Micro Computer Specialists
> > http://www.mcsil.com micro Design    http://www.microdesignco.com
> > PCI PC/104 Micro Industries        http://www.microindustries.com
> > Micro Vention   http://www.microvention.com    micro bench tool kit
> > for home embedded elec Micro/sys       http://www.embeddedsys.com
> > PC/104 Pentium Small 8051 Microbus        http://www.microbus.com
> > Microdigital software           software Micromint
> > http://www.micromint.com       embedded modems, TCP/IP RTC BCC PicStic
> > Midwest Micro-Tek       http://www.midwestmicro-tek.com        188
> > controller used by Artcturus Momentum computers
> > http://www.momenco.com VME compactPCI Mosaic Industries
> > http://www.mosaic-industries.com       touch Motorola Computer group
> > http://www.mcg.mot.com MVS     http://www.mvsweb.com National
> > Instruments    http://www.natinst.com measurement New Micros, Inc.
> >    http://www.newmicros.com       Forth Nu Horizons
> > http://www.nuhorizons.com      passive components manufactured by
> > Nippon Industries Co., Ltd nucleus http://www.nucleus1.com Octagon
> > Systems http://www.octagonsystems.com  rugged, palm, PC104 (bad guys)
> > OKW electronics http://www.okwelectronics.com Onset
> > http://www.onsetcomp.com       data loggers, -332 O'S systems
> > http://www.ossystems.net Paralax http://www.paralaxinc.com
> > Hobbiest, PIC PC engines      http://www.pcengines.com Pep Modular
> > Computers   www. Phytec  http://www.phytec.com/USAmerica/
> > 8051 x86 PLC     http://www.tri-plc.com modbus distributed control
> > system Pond    http://www.pond.ie quake Modular technologies
> > http://www.hypertechnologies.com Rabbit  Rabbitsemiconductor.com Core
> > tool modules with ethernet Radisys http://www.radisys.com Pentium
> > "total communication solution" Real Time Devices
> > http://www.rtduse.com Recortec        http://www.recortec.com
> > Pentium Remote Processing
> > http://www.remotep.com,http://www.RP3.com     measurement 188 RES
> > http://www.RS485.com Rigel   http://www.rigelcorp.com       8051 RLC
> >   http://www.rlc.com RMV     http://www.RMV.com SBC Designs
> > http://www.sbcdesigns.com      scsi, RAID SBS     http://www.sbs.com
> > Sea level       http://www.sealevel.com Sinetic
> > http://www.sinetics.com        rugged Sirius Microsystems
> > http://www.siriusmicro.com     Pic Tools Site Player
> > http://www.siteplayer.com      data acquisition Sky Computers
> > http://www.sky.com Smart Modular Technologies
> > http://www.smartm.com  Falsh 500 products Square1
> > http://www.square1industries.com       celeron, 786 steatite
> > http://www.staetite.co.uk      Pentium synergy micro systems
> > http://www.synergymicro.com    PCI, VME Systran http://www.systran.com
> > DSP Technoland      http://www.technoland.com Technologic Systems
> > http://www.t-systems.com Teknor Industrial Computers, Inc.
> > http://www.teknor.com  PC on Board tempustech
> > http://www.tempustech.com Tern    http://www.tern.com
> > microcontrollers -188 Themis Computer http://www.themis.com  SPARC VME
> > Toronto Microelectronics - TME  http://www.tme-inc.com Trenton
> > http://www.trentonprocessors.com       ISA PCI Triangle Reasearch
> > http://www.tri-plc.com PLC uclinux http://www.uclinux.com linux
> > coldfire Versa Logic     http://www.versalogic.com      PC/104,
> > STD32BUS Vesta Technology        http://www.vestatech.com
> > versatile PIC based, low power, w/ powerful Basic & animated remote
> > debug.  web site contains schematics, datasheets, and manuals vigilant
> >        http://www.vigilanttech.com    PMC Motion Vista Controls Corp.
> >   http://www.vistacc.com
> >
> > VMIC    http://www.vmic.com
> > Weeder  weedtech.com/   modular motion control
> > Win Enterprise  http://www.win-ent.com PC 104 WinCE
> > windriver               software
> > Winsys  http://www.winsystems.com      PC/104
> > xtech   http://www.xtechusa.com
> > ZF Microsystems http://www.zfmicro.com
> > Ziatech http://www.ziatech.com 1999 cPCI DSL sales $80million
> > Z-World http://www.zworld.com  embedded control & ethernet, -188 &
> > -074* zykronix        http://www.zykronix.com        PC compatible
> >
> > Mina Nichols wrote:
> >
> >   HI.
> >   EG3 http://www.cera2.com/index.html is pretty popular but I
> >   don't like
> > them
> >   because their rating systems is very much influenced by paid ads.
> >   Of course magazines buyer's guides tend to have lots of information
> >   laid out in detailed charts, but they are also inclined to only tell
> >   you about companies that have paid their fees, besides, either yo
> >   get the mag or you don't.  You can't just go find it when you need
> >   it. My company, Vesta Techonolgy makes versatile, low-power,
> >   pic-based SBCs and I think that we do an excellent job of giving you
> >   all the information you might want on our web site (but then I
> >   maintain the web site, so I'm biased).  our site is
> >   http://www.vestatech.com. sorry I don't have a perfect answer for
> >   you.  However I do have this nifty chart of our competitors and
> >   their web sites: Company Web site        Key words AAEON Electronics
> >         http://www.aaeon.com   PC/104 Accelent sys
> >   http://www.accelent.com        PCMCIA Acces IO
> >   http://www.acces-usa.com Acqutek http://www.acqu.com    Backplane
> >   cameras displays pentium ACT Tecnico     http://www.acttechnico.com
> >      PCI Actisys http://www.actisys.com ADAC    http://www.adac.com
> >   PCI Adaptive Systems, Inc.  http://www.adaptivesystems.com x86
> >   Adastra http://www.adastra.com PC/104 PCI WinCE Adtron
> >   http://www.adtron.com Advanced Design System
> >   http://www.advdesignsolutions.com Advanced Digital Logic, Inc.
> >   http://www.digitallogic.ch     Embedded PC Advantech
> >   http://www.advantech.com Aerotech        http://www.aerothechusa.com
> >   Alacron http://www.alacron.com PCI, VME Algorythmic
> >   http://www.algor.co.uk PCI, ISA,PCMCIA Alphi Technology
> >   http://www.alphitech.com       PCI PC/104  VME Alta Technology
> >   http://www.altatech.com        PCI Mezzanine AM Reasearch
> >   http://www.amresearch.com      Embedded Control American Predator
> >      http://www.americanpreditor.com Ampro Computers
> >   http://www.ampro.com   PC, PC104, EBX analog devices
> >   http://www.analog.com antona  http://www.antona.com Apex Embedded
> >   Systems   http://www.apexembedded.com Applied Data Systems
> >   http://www.flatpanels.com      WinCE Flatpanels Applied Integrations
> >      http://www.appliedi.com Appor   http://www.appro.com   network
> >   appliances Arbor Technology        http://www.arbor.com.tw/main/htm
> >        pc/104 Arcom Control Systems   http://www.arcom.co.uk/eg3 Arise
> >     http://www.arisecomputer.com/http://www.araise.com Ashware
> >   http://www.ashware.com TPU Atlas Communication Engines
> >   http://www.ace360.com Avantech        http://www.avantech.com
> >   Pentium AVR Sprint      http://www.embedsys.com Axiom Manufacturing
> >      http://www.axman.com Axiom Technology
> >   http://www.axiomtek.com        pci, Data acquisition,
> > pentium
> >   Bagotronix      http://www.bagotronix.com      Embedded Control -188
> >   Basicon Inc.    http://www.basicon.com Bipom   http://www.bipom.com
> >    8051 Bittware Research Systems       http://www.bittware.com Blue
> >   earth research     http://www.blueearthresearch.com       8051,
> >   8052, Basic
> >
> >   boser   http://www.boser.com   x86
> >   BVM limited     http://www.bvmltd.com
> >   Carlo Gavazzi   http://www.carlogavazzi.com
> >   Catalyst Enterprises    http://www.catalyst-ent.com
> >   Celerity Systems        http://www.csidaq.com
> >   Cell Computing  http://www.cellcomputing.com
> >   CETIA   http://www.cetia.com
> >   Cetia   http://www.cetia.com
> >   Coactive networks       http://www.coactive.com
> >   COMARK  http://www.comarkcorp.com
> >   CompuLab        http://www.compulab.co.il      PC 486CORE
> >   Concur systems  http://www.concursys.com
> >   Connecticut Micro computers     http://www.2cmc.com    networking
> >   and swiches Corelis http://www.corelis.com Cyclone Microsystems
> >   http://www.cyclone.com cPCI PCI VME Densan  http://www.densan.com
> >   cPCI VME Densitron       http://www.densitron.com       rugged,
> >   pentium Digital OEM Business Segment
> >   http://www.digital.com/info/oem Dy 4 Systems inc
> >   http://www.dy4.com     VME SBC Dynamic Engineering
> >   mezzanine, PC/104,PCI Dynatem http://www.dynatem.com VME SBC EMAC
> >   http://www.emacinc.com 188 x86+F37 Embedded Support Tools Corp
> >   http://www.estc.com    dev tools Embedex http://www.embedex.com
> >   Embedtec        http://www.embedetec.com       PCI ISA EMJ
> >   emjembedded.com PC104 EMS     http://www.embededde-pc104.com PC104
> >   Epson Electornic        http://www.eea.epson.com Expert Electronics
> >       http://www.expert-tw.com Force Computers
> >   http://www.forcecomputers.com Gateworks
> >   http://www.gateworks.com General Micro Systems
> >   http://www.gms4vme.com VME SBC Sparc Sbus coldfire Gespac
> >   http://www.gespac.com Global American http://www.global American.inc
> >   Hectronic       http://www.hectronic.com HiTech Equipment Corp
> >   http://www.hte.com     SBC Emmulators 188 8051 Ibase
> >   http://www.ibase-I.com.tw      pc104 I-Bus   http://www.ibus.com
> >   Industrial Computers    http://www.or-computers.com Industrial CPU
> >   Systems  http://www.icpu.com Inside Technolgy USA
> >   http://www.inside-us.com Intec Automation
> >   http://www.steroidmicro.com    embedded Power PC Interlogic
> >   http://www.infoview.com        SBC Backplanes, VME Itox
> >   http://www.itox.com JED Microsystems        jedmicro.com
> >   Jkmicrosystems  http://www.jkmicro.com Dos Linux KG Systems
> >   http://www.kgsystems.com       tiny tiger Kinnetic Computers Corp
> >   http://www.kin.com     wirelwess WinCE Lanner
> >   http://www.lannerinc.com       ISA PC/104 PICmg Libbert
> >   http://www.libbert-at.com      consultant, developer industrial sys
> >   MATRIX corp.    http://www.matrix.com  Rugged WinCE MCSI
> >   http://www.mcsi1.com   CP Compatible Megatel Computer Corp
> >   http://www.megatel.ca  PCI PC/104 -332 Micro Computer Specialists
> >     http://www.mcsil.com micro Design    http://www.microdesignco.com
> >    PCI PC/104 Micro Industries        http://www.microindustries.com
> >   Micro Vention   http://www.microvention.com    micro bench tool kit
> >   for home
> > embedded
> >   elec
> >   Micro/sys       http://www.embeddedsys.com     PC/104 Pentium Small
> >   8051 Microbus        http://www.microbus.com Microdigital software
> >           software Micromint       http://www.micromint.com
> >   embedded modems, TCP/IP RTC BCC
> > PicStic
> >   Midwest Micro-Tek       http://www.midwestmicro-tek.com        188
> >   controller
> > used by Artcturus
> >   Momentum computers      http://www.momenco.com VME compactPCI
> >   Mosaic Industries       http://www.mosaic-industries.com       touch
> >   Motorola Computer group http://www.mcg.mot.com MVS
> >   http://www.mvsweb.com National Instruments    http://www.natinst.com
> >   measurement New Micros, Inc.        http://www.newmicros.com
> >   Forth Nu Horizons     http://www.nuhorizons.com      passive
> >   components manufactured
> > by Nippon
> >   Industries Co., Ltd
> >   nucleus http://www.nucleus1.com
> >   Octagon Systems http://www.octagonsystems.com  rugged, palm, PC104
> >   (bad guys) OKW electronics http://www.okwelectronics.com Onset
> >   http://www.onsetcomp.com       data loggers, -332 O'S systems
> >   http://www.ossystems.net Paralax http://www.paralaxinc.com
> >   Hobbiest, PIC PC engines      http://www.pcengines.com Pep Modular
> >   Computers   www. Phytec  http://www.phytec.com/USAmerica/
> >     8051 x86 PLC     http://www.tri-plc.com modbus distributed control
> >   system Pond    http://www.pond.ie quake Modular technologies
> >   http://www.hypertechnologies.com Rabbit  Rabbitsemiconductor.com
> >   Core tool modules with ethernet Radisys http://www.radisys.com
> >   Pentium "total communication solution" Real Time Devices
> >   http://www.rtduse.com Recortec        http://www.recortec.com
> >   Pentium Remote Processing
> >   http://www.remotep.com,http://www.RP3.com
> > measurement 188
> >   RES     http://www.RS485.com
> >   Rigel   http://www.rigelcorp.com       8051
> >   RLC     http://www.rlc.com
> >   RMV     http://www.RMV.com
> >   SBC Designs     http://www.sbcdesigns.com      scsi, RAID
> >   SBS     http://www.sbs.com
> >   Sea level       http://www.sealevel.com
> >   Sinetic http://www.sinetics.com        rugged
> >   Sirius Microsystems     http://www.siriusmicro.com     Pic Tools
> >   Site Player     http://www.siteplayer.com      data acquisition Sky
> >   Computers   http://www.sky.com Smart Modular Technologies
> >   http://www.smartm.com  Falsh 500 products Square1
> >   http://www.square1industries.com       celeron, 786 steatite
> >   http://www.staetite.co.uk      Pentium synergy micro systems
> >   http://www.synergymicro.com    PCI, VME Systran
> >   http://www.systran.com DSP Technoland      http://www.technoland.com
> >   Technologic Systems     http://www.t-systems.com Teknor Industrial
> >   Computers, Inc.       http://www.teknor.com  PC on Board tempustech
> >       http://www.tempustech.com Tern    http://www.tern.com
> >   microcontrollers -188 Themis Computer http://www.themis.com  SPARC
> >   VME Toronto Microelectronics - TME  http://www.tme-inc.com Trenton
> >         http://www.trentonprocessors.com       ISA PCI Triangle
> >   Reasearch      http://www.tri-plc.com PLC uclinux
> >   http://www.uclinux.com linux coldfire Versa Logic
> >   http://www.versalogic.com      PC/104, STD32BUS Vesta Technology
> >      http://www.vestatech.com       versatile PIC based, low
> > power, w/
> >   powerful Basic & animated remote debug.  web site contains
> >   schematics, datasheets, and manuals vigilant
> >   http://www.vigilanttech.com    PMC Motion Vista Controls Corp.
> >   http://www.vistacc.com
> >
> >   VMIC    http://www.vmic.com
> >   Weeder  weedtech.com/   modular motion control
> >   Win Enterprise  http://www.win-ent.com PC 104 WinCE
> >   windriver               software
> >   Winsys  http://www.winsystems.com      PC/104
> >   xtech   http://www.xtechusa.com
> >   ZF Microsystems http://www.zfmicro.com
> >   Ziatech http://www.ziatech.com 1999 cPCI DSL sales $80million
> >   Z-World http://www.zworld.com  embedded control & ethernet, -188 &
> >   -074* zykronix        http://www.zykronix.com        PC compatible
> >
> >   -Mina Nichols
> >   Vesta Technology
> >