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2001\03\24@235353 by Neil Bradley

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Thanks all for the suggestions and pointers. I've now figured out which
PIC micro I'm going to use for my project.

Although I've dabbled in all kinds of breadboarded circuits in my day,
I've never tried to lay out a PCB nor have I used a schematic capture
program.

Can anyone recommend a schematic capture and/or autorouter for PCB layout
- dual layer max - that won't break the bank but will still be
useful? It'd be nice if it emitted the proper files so I could have a PCB
manufacturing house draw it (Gerber files?).

Thanks in advance!

-->Neil

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2001\03\25@004443 by Jinx

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Eagle freeware - http://www.cadsoft.de

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2001\03\25@012729 by Dale Botkin

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If you're not going to need a bunch, try http://www.expresspcb.com.  Free
software to lay out 2-sided boards.  They do really nice work, though
unfortunately I don't think the files their software produces are
interchangeable with any other package.  They have a newer service, qty 3
boards 2.5 x 3" for US$59 delivered, if I recall correctly.

On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Neil Bradley wrote:

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2001\03\25@084113 by Bob Ammerman

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> Thanks all for the suggestions and pointers. I've now figured out which
> PIC micro I'm going to use for my project.
>
> Although I've dabbled in all kinds of breadboarded circuits in my day,
> I've never tried to lay out a PCB nor have I used a schematic capture
> program.
>
> Can anyone recommend a schematic capture and/or autorouter for PCB layout
> - dual layer max - that won't break the bank but will still be
> useful? It'd be nice if it emitted the proper files so I could have a PCB
> manufacturing house draw it (Gerber files?).

> Thanks in advance!

Try Eagle. For small boards it can be free. And the cost of a commercial
version is very reasonable.

The big pain I've dealt with is finding the parts in the library, and I
understand the new version helps with this.

Bob Ammerman
RAm Systems
(contract development of high performance, high function, low-level
software)

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2001\03\26@120443 by David Minkler

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Neil Bradley wrote:
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> Can anyone recommend a schematic capture and/or autorouter for PCB layout
> - dual layer max - that won't break the bank but will still be
> useful? It'd be nice if it emitted the proper files so I could have a PCB
> manufacturing house draw it (Gerber files?).

Neil,

Try Cadint at http://www.cadint.com .  They have a free version which,
aside from maximum pin count, is identical to their professional
versions (easy upgrade).  The integration between their schematic
capture and PCB layout is the best I've ever seen (and I've seen a
few).  They have a Gerber output which is practically automatic (about
three mouse clicks if you accept their defaults).  Best of all, they now
have a terrific manual.  Cadint is the successor to EE Designer which
was one of the best PC layout packages on the market ten years ago
(opinion of several professional PC layout people I've worked with).

Best of luck,
Dave

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2001\03\26@183314 by Dwayne Reid

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At 09:04 PM 3/24/01 -0800, Neil Bradley wrote:
>Thanks all for the suggestions and pointers. I've now figured out which
>PIC micro I'm going to use for my project.
>
>Although I've dabbled in all kinds of breadboarded circuits in my day,
>I've never tried to lay out a PCB nor have I used a schematic capture
>program.
>
>Can anyone recommend a schematic capture and/or autorouter for PCB layout
>- dual layer max - that won't break the bank but will still be
>useful? It'd be nice if it emitted the proper files so I could have a PCB
>manufacturing house draw it (Gerber files?).

Here is a re-post from a few weeks ago:

Good day to all.

I just got the most recent update to my CAD package and now see that there
is a limited but fully functional free version available.  There is a bit
of a learning curve associated with it but it generates excellent
schematics and board layouts.

The package is called 'CADINT' and is available from web sites in both the
USA and Europe.  The US web site is http://www.cadint.com ; the European
site is http://www.cadint.se .

The free / demo version is limited to 250 pins (layout) and manual routing
only.  It is about 13 MB in size but is also available on CD.

My history with this package dates back to the early '80's when it was
known as EE Designer.  Although I have tried several other packages, Cadint
and EE Designer are what I use to generate the layouts and schematics for
my company's products.

I don't want this to come off sounding like an advertisement - I don't have
a vested interest other than as a very long time user.  I haven't mentioned
this before during all the other CAD threads because, at US $4000 for the
version that I have, its just way too expensive for most users.  But now
that I see that they are offering a 250 pin version for free, its just too
good a deal to keep quiet about.

In a nutshell:
250 pins - downloaded:          free
250 pins - shipped on CD:       $10
non-commercial - 500 pins:      $90
Other variants are available.

I hope this helps someone out there.

dwayne


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