Post by thread:[EE]: Fdisk & 2 Primary disks

Hi I have two IDE HDD, 1 is primary disk (bootable) and want to create another one also primary !! How can I achive this ? Fdisk doesn4t allow me to have two primary disks at the same time ! Maybe with Norton, ghost and make a clone, any hints ? Thanks PD the HDD 2 is actually a DOM of 16mb !! -------------------------oOo-------------------------- Javier Grijalba Buenos Aires - Argentina Visit my Page: http://www.Jamiro.com.ar My Mail: spam_OUTmailTakeThisOuTJamiro.com.ar ICQ Nr: 63135111 -------------------------oOo-------------------------- {Original Message removed}

Hi, The answer to this question depends on the OS. You CAN have two HDs on one system that are both bootable, but fdisk doesn't have to know about it. The trick lies in msdos.sys. Actually, fdisk doesn't really have any say in which drive is bootable. So, can you elaborate on what it is you're trying to accomplish? Two different version of windows? One windows drive and the other linux? -Tim Hamel In a message dated 7/31/01 8:54:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, .....mariosabino007KILLspam@spam@HOTMAIL.COM writes: > Hi > I have two IDE HDD, 1 is primary disk (bootable) and want to create another > one also primary !! > How can I achive this ? Fdisk doesn4t allow me to have two primary disks at > the same time ! > Maybe with Norton, ghost and make a clone, any hints ? > Thanks > PD the HDD 2 is actually a DOM of 16mb !! > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

There is a shareware product called pqmagic. It let you make as many partition or disks bootable as you wish on any operating systems ( dos, linux, windows ) Vasile On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Javier wrote: {Quote hidden}> Hi > I have two IDE HDD, 1 is primary disk (bootable) and want to create another > one also primary !! > How can I achive this ? Fdisk doesn4t allow me to have two primary disks at > the same time ! > Maybe with Norton, ghost and make a clone, any hints ? > Thanks > PD the HDD 2 is actually a DOM of 16mb !! > -------------------------oOo-------------------------- > Javier Grijalba > Buenos Aires - Argentina > Visit my Page: http://www.Jamiro.com.ar > My Mail: mailKILLspamJamiro.com.ar > ICQ Nr: 63135111 > -------------------------oOo-------------------------- > > > > {Original Message removed}

If I understand u correctly.... Plug in first HDD, fdisk it, remove. Plug in second HDD, fdisk it. Done. U have two primary disk. Now plug both in, set one as master (C:) and another as slave (D:). With most latest BIOS you can choose to boot from C: or D: The last I tried works well with WinNT and Win98. Linux does not like booting from (D:) however, as LILO assumes that u are booting from C:, :( Regards, Peter {Original Message removed}

> I have two IDE HDD, 1 is primary disk (bootable) and want to create another > one also primary !! You can't have two primary partitions in the same system, that's why they call them "primary". I don't know what you want to achieve, but you might want to look into dual boot setups. ******************************************************************** Olin Lathrop, embedded systems consultant in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, .....olinKILLspam.....embedinc.com, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

> There is a shareware product called pqmagic. It let you make as many > partition or disks bootable as you wish on any operating systems ( dos, > linux, windows ) The brand name of this package is Partition Magic. It will let you create more than one partition that CAN be primary, but only one can be active at a time. PM has the facilities to let you change which primary partition is the active one - which is a dual (or more) boot system, like Olin said. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

At 09:31 AM 8/1/01 -0500, Mike Mansheim wrote: > > There is a shareware product called pqmagic. It let you make as many > > partition or disks bootable as you wish on any operating systems ( dos, > > linux, windows ) > >The brand name of this package is Partition Magic. It will let you create >more than one partition that CAN be primary, but only one can be active >at a time. PM has the facilities to let you change which primary >partition is the active one - which is a dual (or more) boot system, like >Olin said. BEWARE: Even the latest version of PM can only deal with 60G partitions. -- Dave's Engineering Page: http://www.dvanhorn.org I would have a link to http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KC6ETE-9 here in my signature line, but due to the inability of sysadmins at TELOCITY to differentiate a signature line from the text of an email, I am forbidden to have it. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

You must consult the next addresses: www.infor.uva.es/~benja/trabajos-aso/nucleo/Arranque/LILO.htm http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/4592/dual.htm of search "lilo" in your http://www.google.com. There are a lot of information. {Quote hidden}> -----Mensaje original----- > De: pic microcontroller discussion list > [EraseMEPICLISTspam_OUTTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU]En nombre de Peter Tiang > Enviado el: miércoles 1 de agosto de 2001 6:46 > Para: PICLISTspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Asunto: Re: [EE]: Fdisk & 2 Primary disks > > > If I understand u correctly.... > > Plug in first HDD, fdisk it, remove. > Plug in second HDD, fdisk it. > Done. U have two primary disk. > > Now plug both in, set one as master > (C:) and another as slave (D:). > > With most latest BIOS you can choose > to boot from C: or D: > > The last I tried works well with WinNT > and Win98. Linux does not like booting > from (D:) however, as LILO assumes that > u are booting from C:, :( > > Regards, > Peter > > > {Original Message removed}

On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Mike Mansheim wrote: > > There is a shareware product called pqmagic. It let you make as many > > partition or disks bootable as you wish on any operating systems ( dos, > > linux, windows ) > > The brand name of this package is Partition Magic. It will let you create > more than one partition that CAN be primary, but only one can be active > at a time. PM has the facilities to let you change which primary > partition is the active one - which is a dual (or more) boot system, like > Olin said. Or use lilo. I have yet to find a situation in which lilo cannot be made to work... I have a WINNT/Win98/Linux machine with a 40G drive, all three work fine. OK, well, one works fine and the other two work as well as their underlying issues permit. Dale -- A train stops at a train station. A bus stops at a bus station. On my desk I have a workstation... -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

Dale Botkin wrote: > >Or use lilo. I have yet to find a situation in which lilo cannot be made >to work... I have a WINNT/Win98/Linux machine with a 40G drive, all three >work fine. OK, well, one works fine and the other two work as well as >their underlying issues permit. > Careful, Dale, Bill might get mad at you for saying things like that. :=) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

> >Or use lilo. > > What is lilo? From the readme for lilo: "LILO is a versatile boot loader for Linux. It does not depend on a specific file system, can boot Linux kernel images from floppy disks and from hard disks and can even act as a "boot manager" for other operating systems.* * PC/MS-DOS, DR DOS, OS/2, Windows 95, Windows NT, 386BSD, SCO UNIX, Unixware, ... One of up to sixteen different images can be selected at boot time. Various parameters, such as the root device, can be set independently for each kernel. LILO can even be used as the master boot record." Paul ========================================= Paul Hutchinson Chief Engineer Maximum Inc., 30 Samuel Barnet Blvd. New Bedford, MA 02745 @spam@phutchinsonKILLspamimtra.com http://www.maximum-inc.com ========================================= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

Yep. Like most Linx things, it's highly configurable. You have a choice between text and graphical presentation, you set a default partition to boot if the user provides no input and a configurable timeout. You can boot any OS that I know of, from any partition on any drive. Downsides: I don't know how you would install it without Linux, although I suspect you can -- I've never thought about it. Also, some things like hitting F8 to step thru a Windows startup are more difficult to set up (if possible, I'm not sure, never tried it). Dale On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Douglas Butler wrote: > In short, when you turn on your PC Lilo comes up and asks you which of > the operating systems you have installed do you want to boot this time? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

>Downsides: I don't know how you would install it without Linux, although I >suspect you can -- I've never thought about it. Also, some things like >hitting F8 to step thru a Windows startup are more difficult to set up (if >possible, I'm not sure, never tried it). >Dale After you select dos or windows and hit enter you will see the "Startling MS-DOS..." message, and at that point you can press F8 or hold the CTRL key or whatever. That's because LILO just chains off to whatever the normal OS boot would be in the first place. I have though about doing it without Linux, but not that much and haven't tried anything. It would be fairly simple to have, but more complicated to *install*. Barry Yes, the misspelling was intentional. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

You can do it without linux. Or at least someone has. Their version is called xosl. [eXtended Operating System Loader] And yes it is free - using GPL. [GNU Public Licence] Bye. {Original Message removed}

> In short, when you turn on your PC Lilo comes up and asks you which of > the operating systems you have installed do you want to boot this time? > > Sherpa Doug Exactly. Also LILO can boot Linux off any hard drive (not just C: as was previously said), and you can configure the wait time, and which OS boots by itself if you do nothing. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

I've installed linux on 2 different computers, and both times its really screwed up the partition. The graphical one usually works, but it doesn't let you do much. The fdisk that comes with windows usually doesn't mess up the drive, but it often freezes on some formats. I've had really good success with the ranish partition manager. I used it to fix my harddrivers after linux screwed them. It also has its own boot loader program like lilo. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use lilo, just set up your partitions first with ranish. Here's one page its on http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList KILLspampiclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu