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'[EE]: Fdisk & 2 Primary disks'
2001\07\31@235312 by Javier

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Hi
I have two IDE HDD, 1 is primary disk (bootable) and want to create another
one also primary !!
How can I achive this ? Fdisk doesn4t allow me to have two primary disks at
the same time !
Maybe with Norton, ghost and make a clone, any hints ?
Thanks
PD the HDD 2 is actually a DOM of 16mb !!
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'[EE]: Fdisk & 2 Primary disks'
2001\08\01@005328 by Tim Hamel
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Hi,

The answer to this question depends on the OS. You CAN have two HDs on one
system that are both bootable, but fdisk doesn't have to know about it. The
trick lies in msdos.sys. Actually, fdisk doesn't really have any say in which
drive is bootable. So, can you elaborate on what it is you're trying to
accomplish? Two different version of windows? One windows drive and the other
linux?

-Tim Hamel

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> Hi
> I have two IDE HDD, 1 is primary disk (bootable) and want to create another
> one also primary !!
> How can I achive this ? Fdisk doesn4t allow me to have two primary disks at
> the same time !
> Maybe with Norton, ghost and make a clone, any hints ?
> Thanks
> PD the HDD 2 is actually a DOM of 16mb !!
>

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2001\08\01@011659 by Vasile Surducan

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There is a shareware product called pqmagic. It let you make as many
partition or disks bootable as you wish on any operating systems ( dos,
linux, windows )
Vasile

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2001\08\01@063141 by Peter Tiang

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If I understand u correctly....

Plug in first HDD, fdisk it, remove.
Plug in second HDD, fdisk it.
Done. U have two primary disk.

Now plug both in, set one as master
(C:) and another as slave (D:).

With most latest BIOS you can choose
to boot from C: or D:

The last I tried works well with WinNT
and Win98. Linux does not like booting
from (D:) however, as LILO assumes that
u are booting from C:, :(

Regards,
Peter


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2001\08\01@084644 by Olin Lathrop
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> I have two IDE HDD, 1 is primary disk (bootable) and want to create
another
> one also primary !!

You can't have two primary partitions in the same system, that's why they
call them "primary".  I don't know what you want to achieve, but you might
want to look into dual boot setups.


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2001\08\01@103253 by Mike Mansheim

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> There is a shareware product called pqmagic. It let you make as many
> partition or disks bootable as you wish on any operating systems ( dos,
> linux, windows )

The brand name of this package is Partition Magic.  It will let you create
more than one partition that CAN be primary, but only one can be active
at a time.  PM has the facilities to let you change which primary
partition is the active one - which is a dual (or more) boot system, like
Olin said.

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2001\08\01@104427 by David VanHorn

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At 09:31 AM 8/1/01 -0500, Mike Mansheim wrote:
> > There is a shareware product called pqmagic. It let you make as many
> > partition or disks bootable as you wish on any operating systems ( dos,
> > linux, windows )
>
>The brand name of this package is Partition Magic.  It will let you create
>more than one partition that CAN be primary, but only one can be active
>at a time.  PM has the facilities to let you change which primary
>partition is the active one - which is a dual (or more) boot system, like
>Olin said.

BEWARE: Even the latest version of PM can only deal with 60G partitions.

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2001\08\01@104527 by F.J.ALEXANDRE

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You must consult the next addresses:

www.infor.uva.es/~benja/trabajos-aso/nucleo/Arranque/LILO.htm
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/4592/dual.htm

of search "lilo" in your http://www.google.com. There are a lot of information.




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2001\08\01@105336 by Dale Botkin

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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Mike Mansheim wrote:

> > There is a shareware product called pqmagic. It let you make as many
> > partition or disks bootable as you wish on any operating systems ( dos,
> > linux, windows )
>
> The brand name of this package is Partition Magic.  It will let you create
> more than one partition that CAN be primary, but only one can be active
> at a time.  PM has the facilities to let you change which primary
> partition is the active one - which is a dual (or more) boot system, like
> Olin said.

Or use lilo.  I have yet to find a situation in which lilo cannot be made
to work...  I have a WINNT/Win98/Linux machine with a 40G drive, all three
work fine.  OK, well, one works fine and the other two work as well as
their underlying issues permit.

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2001\08\01@115343 by Bob Barr

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Dale Botkin wrote:

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>Or use lilo.  I have yet to find a situation in which lilo cannot be made
>to work...  I have a WINNT/Win98/Linux machine with a 40G drive, all three
>work fine.  OK, well, one works fine and the other two work as well as
>their underlying issues permit.
>

Careful, Dale, Bill might get mad at you for saying things like that. :=)



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2001\08\01@121745 by Mike Mansheim

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>Or use lilo.

What is lilo?

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2001\08\01@125620 by Paul Hutchinson

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> >Or use lilo.
>
> What is lilo?

From the readme for lilo:

"LILO is a versatile boot loader for Linux. It does not depend on a
specific file system, can boot Linux kernel images from floppy disks and
from hard disks and can even act as a "boot manager" for other operating
systems.*

 *  PC/MS-DOS, DR DOS, OS/2, Windows 95, Windows NT, 386BSD, SCO UNIX,
   Unixware, ...

One of up to sixteen different images can be selected at boot time. Various
parameters, such as the root device, can be set independently for each
kernel. LILO can even be used as the master boot record."

Paul

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2001\08\01@130509 by Douglas Butler

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In short, when you turn on your PC Lilo comes up and asks you which of
the operating systems you have installed do you want to boot this time?

Sherpa Doug

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2001\08\01@131333 by Dale Botkin

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Yep.  Like most Linx things, it's highly configurable.  You have a choice
between text and graphical presentation, you set a default partition to
boot if the user provides no input and a configurable timeout.  You can
boot any OS that I know of, from any partition on any drive.

Downsides: I don't know how you would install it without Linux, although I
suspect you can -- I've never thought about it.  Also, some things like
hitting F8 to step thru a Windows startup are more difficult to set up (if
possible, I'm not sure, never tried it).

Dale

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> In short, when you turn on your PC Lilo comes up and asks you which of
> the operating systems you have installed do you want to boot this time?

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2001\08\01@180359 by Barry Gershenfeld

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>Downsides: I don't know how you would install it without Linux, although I
>suspect you can -- I've never thought about it.  Also, some things like
>hitting F8 to step thru a Windows startup are more difficult to set up (if
>possible, I'm not sure, never tried it).
>Dale

After you select dos or windows and hit enter you will see
the "Startling MS-DOS..." message, and at that point you can
press F8 or hold the CTRL key or whatever.  That's because
LILO just chains off to whatever the normal OS boot would
be in the first place.

I have though about doing it without Linux, but not that
much and haven't tried anything.  It would be fairly
simple to have, but more complicated to *install*.

Barry

Yes, the misspelling was intentional.

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2001\08\01@214750 by Gennette, Bruce

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You can do it without linux.  Or at least someone has.
Their version is called xosl.
[eXtended Operating System Loader]

And yes it is free - using GPL.
[GNU Public Licence]

Bye.

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2001\08\02@185615 by Peter L. Peres

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> In short, when you turn on your PC Lilo comes up and asks you which of
> the operating systems you have installed do you want to boot this time?
>
> Sherpa Doug

Exactly. Also LILO can boot Linux off any hard drive (not just C: as was
previously said), and you can configure the wait time, and which OS boots
by itself if you do nothing.

Peter

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2001\08\04@192406 by Kyle Stemen

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I've installed linux on 2 different computers, and both times its really
screwed up the partition. The graphical one usually works, but it
doesn't let you do much. The fdisk that comes with windows usually
doesn't mess up the drive, but it often freezes on some formats.

I've had really good success with the ranish partition manager. I used
it to fix my harddrivers after linux screwed them. It also has its own
boot loader program like lilo. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use
lilo, just set up your partitions first with ranish. Here's one page its
on http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/.

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