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2002\09\15@130254 by

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Hi.
Anyone been able to print photo films from Eagle
to expose copper laminate ?

I'v fiddled around with the settings in Eagle, but have
some problem to print nice films.
(I'v printet PDF docs docs downloaded from Elektor on
my HP Deskjet 960c, with god (well, acceptable to me)
results.)

Regards
Jan-Erik Söderholm

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2002\09\15@130926 by -8859-1?Q?Hern=E1n_Freschi?=

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If the printing options are not satisfactory, you can use the CAM
PREPROCESSOR, and export it to EPS, for example. Then, you open that
file in Adobe Photoshop, or Adobe Illustrator, or any good design
software, using 600 DPI resolution. You should have no problems about
quality. The only thing is that you lose the holes on the pads... too
bad!

I Never exposed a film to a PCB, but I have used the press-n-peel system
with EXCELLENT results, using a laser HP 1100 printer, printing directly
from Eagle (and I dont lose the holes).

Hernan Freschi

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Asunto: [EE]: Eagle and printing films for home PCB production.

Hi.
Anyone been able to print photo films from Eagle
to expose copper laminate ?

I'v fiddled around with the settings in Eagle, but have
some problem to print nice films.
(I'v printet PDF docs docs downloaded from Elektor on
my HP Deskjet 960c, with god (well, acceptable to me)
results.)

Regards
Jan-Erik Söderholm

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2002\09\15@134040 by

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I searched for "press-n-peel", and found a link to
"http://www.techniks.com" but that page just gave an
error message.

Do you have any other link to the producer ?

Jan-Erik Söderholm.

Hernán Freschi wrote:
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> I Never exposed a film to a PCB, but I have used the press-n-peel system
> with EXCELLENT results, using a laser HP 1100 printer, printing directly
> from Eagle (and I dont lose the holes).
>
> Hernan Freschi

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2002\09\15@161357 by Renzo Giurini

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I print with my Epson Color 680 on a good paper for ink jet printer.
 On Eagle I select "black" , "solid" and a resolution of 720 dpi.

Then I make in an external service a xerox copy on a transparent layer at the cost of 0,2 euro.
The outcome is very good.

Sincerly
Renzo

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2002\09\15@163352 by Dominic Stratten

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Get some transparency from Nigel at http://www.paperselect.co.uk (markings on my
box are R102CJC) and print on it with an Epson Inkjet set to the Glossy Film
setting - it works for me with positive UV etching (down to 0.2mm tracks). I
havent found any other manufacturers of inkjets ink to work as well as this
combination.

Cheers

Dom
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2002\09\15@200234 by -8859-1?Q?Hern=E1n_Freschi?=

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Photocopies (xerox copies...) didn't work for me. Seems that the printer
was out of focus, and blurred the image, so it was no good for p-n-p. I
imagine that it wouldn't be good for transparencies either. So, make
sure that the photocopier you use is in excellent condition!


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En nombre de Renzo Giurini
Enviado el: Domingo, 15 de Septiembre de 2002 05:14 p.m.
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Asunto: Re: [EE]: Eagle and printing films for home PCB production.

I print with my Epson Color 680 on a good paper for ink jet printer.
 On Eagle I select "black" , "solid" and a resolution of 720 dpi.

Then I make in an external service a xerox copy on a transparent layer
at the cost of 0,2 euro.
The outcome is very good.

Sincerly
Renzo

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The page Works for me, but I imagine you can get the paper at your local
electronics store. I live in a small city in Argentina (that is, in
south america...) and I've been buying it at the local electronics store
for 3 or 4 years already.

It's a bit tricky at the beginning, until you find the right temperature
and time. There are others secrets too.
*** If anyone wants, i'll post all of the secrets for using blue p-n-p,
or "papel azul" (blue paper) as I call it. ***

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En nombre de Jan-erik Söderholm (QAC)
Enviado el: Domingo, 15 de Septiembre de 2002 02:34 p.m.
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Asunto: Re: [EE]: Eagle and printing films for home PCB production.

I searched for "press-n-peel", and found a link to
"http://www.techniks.com" but that page just gave an
error message.

Do you have any other link to the producer ?

Jan-Erik Söderholm.

Hernán Freschi wrote:
>
> I Never exposed a film to a PCB, but I have used the press-n-peel
system
> with EXCELLENT results, using a laser HP 1100 printer, printing
directly
> from Eagle (and I dont lose the holes).
>
> Hernan Freschi

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2002\09\16@160829 by

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The URL : http://www.techniks.com just gives me the message :

"File or Directory not found, Or this link may be missing or broken. Contact the webmaster for the missing File/Directory/Link."

I'd realy like to try out a few sheets of this material !
(And I'm in Sweden, and would like to find a local distributor)

Jan-Erik Söderholm.

Hernán Freschi wrote :

>The page Works for me, but I imagine you can get the paper at your local
>electronics store. I live in a small city in Argentina (that is, in
>south america...) and I've been buying it at the local electronics store
>for 3 or 4 years already.

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2002\09\17@142919 by Mike Singer

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Or you could switch your monitor resolution to max value: 1600x1200 or more, then capture image with some capture program (Corel Capture for example) and edit and print it
with any bitmap editor. You could do it in several fragments.
 Mike.
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2002\09\17@173239 by Jan-Erik Soderholm

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Hernan Freschi wrote :
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> If the printing options are not satisfactory, you can use the CAM
> PREPROCESSOR, and export it to EPS, for example. Then, you open that
> file in Adobe Photoshop, or Adobe Illustrator, or any good design
> software, using 600 DPI resolution. You should have no problems about
> quality. The only thing is that you lose the holes on the pads... too
> bad!
>

After some experimenting I'v come up with the following solution :

1. Use the CAM preprocessor, settings :
  - PS output
  - Pirnting "Bottom", "Pads", "Vias" and "Holes".
  - De-selecting the option "Fill pads"

2. Run the PS file through "Adobe Acrobat Destiller".

The PDF file looks just OK on screen and prints with high quality on both
my Laserjet and my Deskjet. *Including* holes on the pads !!

Jan-Erik Svderholm
S:t Anna Data
tel : +46 121 42161
mob : +46 70 5241690

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2002\09\18@053649 by Morgan Olsson

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>2. Run the PS file through "Adobe Acrobat Destiller".

Shareware alterantive:
 http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html
GSview is the graphical interface to Ghostscript.

/Morgan

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