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2008\06\13@163448 by James Nick Sears

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Hi,

I'm thinking about making the jump into a 256 pin BGA for my next
project, but I have a lot of unknowns when it comes to actually doing
the layout.  Does anyone have a good reference for things like what
sort of footprint to use (a grid of vias, right?), suggestions on
routing all of those pins out into the open, etc?

Any suggestions much appreciated!

-n.

2008\06\14@084652 by Martin K

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James Nick Sears wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm thinking about making the jump into a 256 pin BGA for my next
> project, but I have a lot of unknowns when it comes to actually doing
> the layout.  Does anyone have a good reference for things like what
> sort of footprint to use (a grid of vias, right?), suggestions on
> routing all of those pins out into the open, etc?
>
> Any suggestions much appreciated!
>
> -n.
>  
What chip is it? They might actually give you a recommended breakout
pattern.

-
Martin

2008\06\14@091717 by peter green

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James Nick Sears wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm thinking about making the jump into a 256 pin BGA for my next
> project, but I have a lot of unknowns when it comes to actually doing
> the layout.  Does anyone have a good reference for things like what
> sort of footprint to use (a grid of vias, right?)
Generally no! Via-in-pad is possible but only with very specialist PCB
processes. If you try to do it with ordinary sized unfilled holes it
will just suck the solder away. Normal practice is to leave the pad
diagonally and then via down to an internal layer.

The footprint itself should be a simple grid of (generally round) pads.
For details on the size and spacing of pads check with the manufacturer
of the device in question.

You will need a PCB process fine enough that with vias positioned as
above you can get at least one and preferablly two tracks on each layer
between a pair of vias. For a 1mm fineline BGA to get two tracks between
a pair of vias you will want something like .1mm track gap and annular
ring and .3mm holesize.
> , suggestions on
> routing all of those pins out into the open
For the power pins you probablly want to go straight into an internal plane.

For the signal lines it depends how much space you have, if you have
loads of space try to route out to the side nearest the pad in question.
If space is tight you will just have to add layers and/or reduce feature
sizes until the tracks fit in the direction you want.

Blind vias are also an option but I suspect they will considerablly
drive up costs. If using them you want to route the pins from the middle
of the chip on the lower layers.

If working with an fpga it is often usefull to switch pins arround as
you find which pin is easiest to get to for each track.

If the chip has a load of power/ground pins in the middle then by
carefull positioning of the vias you may be able to squeeze in some caps
under the middle of the chip.


2008\06\14@120013 by James Nick Sears

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OK, thanks!  Now this is starting to get a little clearer.

Does anyone have a good recommendation of a board house for
prototype-quantity 4, 6, or 8 layer PCBs at a semi-reasonable price?

Thanks,
-n.

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 9:16 AM, peter green <spam_OUTplugwashTakeThisOuTspamp10link.net> wrote:
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2008\06\14@120141 by James Nick Sears
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It's an Altera Cyclone III FPGA.

> What chip is it? They might actually give you a recommended breakout
> pattern.
>
> -
> Martin

2008\06\14@161254 by Martin K

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Try 66each.com (4pcb.com)
Also imagineering has had some good deals lately and their quality was
better than 4pcb: http://www.pcbnet.com/
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Martin

James Nick Sears wrote:
> OK, thanks!  Now this is starting to get a little clearer.
>
> Does anyone have a good recommendation of a board house for
> prototype-quantity 4, 6, or 8 layer PCBs at a semi-reasonable price?
>
> Thanks,
> -n.
>
>  

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