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2004\06\21@135319 by Mike Hord

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Kind of helpful, but I'm still looking for something more specific, and
maybe someone knows of a product...

I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example,
PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are
translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a
carriage return behind each pair.

Does anyone know of such a thing?

Mike H.

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2004\06\21@141533 by George Smith

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On 21 Jun 2004, at 12:52, Mike Hord wrote:

> I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example,
> PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are
> translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a
> carriage return behind each pair.
>
> Does anyone know of such a thing?

You could browse around windmill - they seem to specialise in that sort of thing although
I have not had to use them. There is a free program if you subscribe to their email
newsletter (which is quite good).
http://www.windmill.co.uk/rs232.html


George Smith

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2004\06\21@141946 by Ake Hedman

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RealTerm will do that. http://realterm.sourceforge.net/

Regards
/Ake

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On 21 Jun 2004, at 12:52, Mike Hord wrote:

> I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example,
> PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are
> translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a
> carriage return behind each pair.
>
> Does anyone know of such a thing?

You could browse around windmill - they seem to specialise in that sort
of thing although
I have not had to use them. There is a free program if you subscribe to
their email
newsletter (which is quite good).
http://www.windmill.co.uk/rs232.html


George Smith

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2004\06\21@143637 by David VanHorn

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At 12:52 PM 6/21/2004 -0500, Mike Hord wrote:

>Kind of helpful, but I'm still looking for something more specific, and
>maybe someone knows of a product...
>
>I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example,
>PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are
>translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a
>carriage return behind each pair.
>
>Does anyone know of such a thing?

Not for the PC..
Verifone used to sell a c-like language called "mimic" that could do this.  That's what we wrote it for.

Also, you might look into buying a TRANZ-330 credit card terminal cheaply. Verifone has the TCL software manual on their web site, and you can enter programs manually, or with their loader.  I used to be one of the top guys in the world with this language. :)

The language is good at protocols, building packets and shipping them off, parsing responses, etc.

B1.1 G J'BCAKE' selects buffer 1, clears it, and puts the time and date into it.

MNL reads a mag card, prints it, and then does it again. This was the first program written for a customer in Verifone TCL.

You can store programs under each key, so it's a single keypress to start
the conversation.

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2004\06\21@155640 by Mike Hord

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Interestingly, my immediately previous job to this was telephone
troubleshooting Verifone terminals for BP/Amoco.  Primarily the
Ruby.  It was a fascinating little machine.

This sounds like a little more trouble than I want; I may have to
write a VB program to do it.

Basically, I want a program that can negotiate with a device and
handle the data automatically; for example, recognize that this is
a string of data, terminated with a certain escape sequence, and
do something with this data different than another string.

I'm doing the hardware/firmware for a small project while someone
else does the PC side, and I'd like a bare-bones interface for testing.
Right now, I am altering the firmware to send out data in different
formats to talk to hyperterminal rather than the final front end.

Mike H.

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2004\06\21@165620 by David VanHorn
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At 02:54 PM 6/21/2004 -0500, Mike Hord wrote:

>Interestingly, my immediately previous job to this was telephone
>troubleshooting Verifone terminals for BP/Amoco.  Primarily the
>Ruby.  It was a fascinating little machine.

Some of us called that line the "Gallstone".  (I didn't work on that one!)

Designed in '90-91, at a cost of some $6M and it turned out that basically nobody wanted them.  They have caught on now, in their intended market, but boy that was an immense sinkhole for a number of years.

The engineering effort on the Gemstone line was overseen by a marketing person. The same person who came up with this solution to bar code pens being broken in convenience stores:  "Put a heavy rubber ring on the back end, and a light one on the front, so that the back end will fall faster, and it won't hit the lens."

Not a physics major, that's for sure.

I countered with the idea of tying balloons on the lens end, which have lift and drag. They could even be imprinted with the store logo!
She didn't like my solution either..

Later, I found out that the store people had invented a game based on the springy coil cord on the wands, involving throwing the wand at a paper target taped to the concrete floor.

>Basically, I want a program that can negotiate with a device and
>handle the data automatically; for example, recognize that this is
>a string of data, terminated with a certain escape sequence, and
>do something with this data different than another string.

I've done these things with a Tranz-330.
I've also used them for regression testing on printer firmware, where they would send out large test data sets to excite and test for specific bugs.

It's great fun writing an emulation for someone else's buggy emulation of someone else's protocol, when the bugs are required by existing customers.

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2004\06\22@155908 by Peter L. Peres

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>I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example,
>PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are
>translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a
>carriage return behind each pair.

What kind of words ? Under any Unix you have a lot of tools that can do
such things. One of them is od, another would be awk. It is also trivial
to write C (using lex or flex) or Perl or other script code to do that.

Peter

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2004\06\22@165122 by Johan Rantala

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Peter L. Peres wrote:

> >I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example,
> >PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are
> >translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a
> >carriage return behind each pair.

You could try with sjinn:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sjinn/

-JR-

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2004\06\23@095118 by Mike Hord

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Sigh.

Yes, I could do it fairly easily in Linux.  I've written little-bitty serial
port
programs in Linux before.  Problem is, I don't have a Linux box at the
moment.

Oh well.  Maybe this is just my kick in the rear.

Mike H.

> > >I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example,
> > >PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are
> > >translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a
> > >carriage return behind each pair.
>
>You could try with sjinn:
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/sjinn/
>
>-JR-

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2004\06\23@100740 by cisco J. A. Ares

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Try Knoppix Linux Live CD ;-)

http://www.knoppix.org

Francisco



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2004\06\30@091515 by Johan Rantala

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Mike Hord wrote:

> Yes, I could do it fairly easily in Linux.  I've written little-bitty
> serial port programs in Linux before.  Problem is, I don't have a Linux
> box at the
> moment.


It may also work with Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com/)...or there's always
the dualboot option of course.



> Oh well.  Maybe this is just my kick in the rear.

;)

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