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Kind of helpful, but I'm still looking for something more specific, and maybe someone knows of a product... I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example, PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a carriage return behind each pair. Does anyone know of such a thing? Mike H. {Quote hidden}>Hi, > >I found Realterm some days ago. Good tool for serial analysis/debugging >and free. Possibly everyone knows about it but it was new to me and I >found it very useful. I have been thinking about making such a program >myself for many years but now I don't have to..... > >http://realterm.sourceforge.net/#Installing > >Regards >/Ake > > --- >Ake Hedman (YAP - Yet Another Programmer) >eurosource, Brattbergavdgen 17, 820 50 LOS, Sweden >Phone: 46 657 413430 Cellular: 46 730 533146 >Company home: http://www.eurosource.se Kryddor/Te/Kaffe: >http://www.brattberg.com >Personal homepage: http://www.eurosource.se/akhe > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email spam_OUTlistservTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body _________________________________________________________________ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access fights spam and pop-ups now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On 21 Jun 2004, at 12:52, Mike Hord wrote: > I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example, > PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are > translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a > carriage return behind each pair. > > Does anyone know of such a thing? You could browse around windmill - they seem to specialise in that sort of thing although I have not had to use them. There is a free program if you subscribe to their email newsletter (which is quite good). http://www.windmill.co.uk/rs232.html George Smith -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

RealTerm will do that. http://realterm.sourceforge.net/ Regards /Ake -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fran: pic microcontroller discussion list [.....PICLISTKILLspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]For George Smith Skickat: den 21 juni 2004 20:16 Till: PICLISTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU Amne: Re: [EE:] serial tool On 21 Jun 2004, at 12:52, Mike Hord wrote: > I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example, > PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are > translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a > carriage return behind each pair. > > Does anyone know of such a thing? You could browse around windmill - they seem to specialise in that sort of thing although I have not had to use them. There is a free program if you subscribe to their email newsletter (which is quite good). http://www.windmill.co.uk/rs232.html George Smith -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

At 12:52 PM 6/21/2004 -0500, Mike Hord wrote: >Kind of helpful, but I'm still looking for something more specific, and >maybe someone knows of a product... > >I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example, >PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are >translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a >carriage return behind each pair. > >Does anyone know of such a thing? Not for the PC.. Verifone used to sell a c-like language called "mimic" that could do this. That's what we wrote it for. Also, you might look into buying a TRANZ-330 credit card terminal cheaply. Verifone has the TCL software manual on their web site, and you can enter programs manually, or with their loader. I used to be one of the top guys in the world with this language. :) The language is good at protocols, building packets and shipping them off, parsing responses, etc. B1.1 G J'BCAKE' selects buffer 1, clears it, and puts the time and date into it. MNL reads a mag card, prints it, and then does it again. This was the first program written for a customer in Verifone TCL. You can store programs under each key, so it's a single keypress to start the conversation. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

Interestingly, my immediately previous job to this was telephone troubleshooting Verifone terminals for BP/Amoco. Primarily the Ruby. It was a fascinating little machine. This sounds like a little more trouble than I want; I may have to write a VB program to do it. Basically, I want a program that can negotiate with a device and handle the data automatically; for example, recognize that this is a string of data, terminated with a certain escape sequence, and do something with this data different than another string. I'm doing the hardware/firmware for a small project while someone else does the PC side, and I'd like a bare-bones interface for testing. Right now, I am altering the firmware to send out data in different formats to talk to hyperterminal rather than the final front end. Mike H. {Quote hidden}>Not for the PC.. >Verifone used to sell a c-like language called "mimic" that could do this. >That's what we wrote it for. > >Also, you might look into buying a TRANZ-330 credit card terminal cheaply. >Verifone has the TCL software manual on their web site, and you can enter >programs manually, or with their loader. I used to be one of the top guys >in the world with this language. :) > >The language is good at protocols, building packets and shipping them off, >parsing responses, etc. > >B1.1 G J'BCAKE' selects buffer 1, clears it, and puts the time and date >into it. > >MNL reads a mag card, prints it, and then does it again. This was the first >program written for a customer in Verifone TCL. > >You can store programs under each key, so it's a single keypress to start >the conversation. > >-- >http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics >(like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

At 02:54 PM 6/21/2004 -0500, Mike Hord wrote: >Interestingly, my immediately previous job to this was telephone >troubleshooting Verifone terminals for BP/Amoco. Primarily the >Ruby. It was a fascinating little machine. Some of us called that line the "Gallstone". (I didn't work on that one!) Designed in '90-91, at a cost of some $6M and it turned out that basically nobody wanted them. They have caught on now, in their intended market, but boy that was an immense sinkhole for a number of years. The engineering effort on the Gemstone line was overseen by a marketing person. The same person who came up with this solution to bar code pens being broken in convenience stores: "Put a heavy rubber ring on the back end, and a light one on the front, so that the back end will fall faster, and it won't hit the lens." Not a physics major, that's for sure. I countered with the idea of tying balloons on the lens end, which have lift and drag. They could even be imprinted with the store logo! She didn't like my solution either.. Later, I found out that the store people had invented a game based on the springy coil cord on the wands, involving throwing the wand at a paper target taped to the concrete floor. >Basically, I want a program that can negotiate with a device and >handle the data automatically; for example, recognize that this is >a string of data, terminated with a certain escape sequence, and >do something with this data different than another string. I've done these things with a Tranz-330. I've also used them for regression testing on printer firmware, where they would send out large test data sets to excite and test for specific bugs. It's great fun writing an emulation for someone else's buggy emulation of someone else's protocol, when the bugs are required by existing customers. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

>I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example, >PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are >translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a >carriage return behind each pair. What kind of words ? Under any Unix you have a lot of tools that can do such things. One of them is od, another would be awk. It is also trivial to write C (using lex or flex) or Perl or other script code to do that. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Peter L. Peres wrote: > >I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example, > >PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are > >translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a > >carriage return behind each pair. You could try with sjinn: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sjinn/ -JR- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

Sigh. Yes, I could do it fairly easily in Linux. I've written little-bitty serial port programs in Linux before. Problem is, I don't have a Linux box at the moment. Oh well. Maybe this is just my kick in the rear. Mike H. > > >I want a program that can easily implement a protocol; for example, > > >PC sends "/p", device responds with a sequence of bytes, which are > > >translated by the program into pairs of tab-separated words, with a > > >carriage return behind each pair. > >You could try with sjinn: >http://sourceforge.net/projects/sjinn/ > >-JR- _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email .....listservKILLspam.....mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Try Knoppix Linux Live CD ;-) http://www.knoppix.org Francisco Mike Hord wrote: {Quote hidden}> Sigh. > > Yes, I could do it fairly easily in Linux. I've written little-bitty > serial > port > programs in Linux before. Problem is, I don't have a Linux box at the > moment. > > Oh well. Maybe this is just my kick in the rear. > > Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email EraseMElistservspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Mike Hord wrote: > Yes, I could do it fairly easily in Linux. I've written little-bitty > serial port programs in Linux before. Problem is, I don't have a Linux > box at the > moment. It may also work with Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com/)...or there's always the dualboot option of course. > Oh well. Maybe this is just my kick in the rear. ;) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads