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'[EE:] Supplier of single-sided PCB prototypes'
2004\06\09@171308 by Jason S

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www.custompcb.com seems to be pretty cheap.  The have 4x5.5 single sided
boards for $9 (2 piece minimum).

They also allow panelization of 1 or more designs (and even cut them out for
you) on 8x11 panels which are 2 for $48 up to 10 for $138.

I have never tried them because for a single sided board I'll etch it myself
and for a double sided, the price doubles.

Jason

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2004\06\10@022735 by Ake Hedman

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I can really recommend Olimex (http://www.olimex.com)  Low Cost, *very* god
service and *good* support.

Regards
/Ake

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http://www.custompcb.com seems to be pretty cheap.  The have 4x5.5 single sided
boards for $9 (2 piece minimum).

They also allow panelization of 1 or more designs (and even cut them out
for
you) on 8x11 panels which are 2 for $48 up to 10 for $138.

I have never tried them because for a single sided board I'll etch it
myself
and for a double sided, the price doubles.

Jason

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2004\06\10@131906 by Shawn Wilton

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God service?  Sweet.  Did you have to pay extra for the divinity or was that included?

-Shawn



Ake Hedman wrote:
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2004\06\10@132655 by Ake Hedman

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oops!

/Ake

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God service?  Sweet.  Did you have to pay extra for the divinity or was
that included?

-Shawn



Ake Hedman wrote:
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> boards for $9 (2 piece minimum).
>
> They also allow panelization of 1 or more designs (and even cut them
out
> for
> you) on 8x11 panels which are 2 for $48 up to 10 for $138.
>
> I have never tried them because for a single sided board I'll etch it
> myself
> and for a double sided, the price doubles.
>
> Jason
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> {Original Message removed}

2004\06\10@192659 by William Chops Westfield

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On Thursday, Jun 10, 2004, at 10:25 US/Pacific, Ake Hedman wrote:
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>>> Are there any really cheap (including shipping cost) suppliers of
>>> single-sided prototype PCBs that anyone would like to share?
>>>
>>> I'm looking for non-plated through holes (so, not the typical
>>> 2-layer PCB process) and if they had access to the typical low-cost
>>> crappy laminates as an option, all the better.
>>>

My impression is that you don't GET that sort of board as a
'prototype.'  You can start talking to providers of that sort for
production runs, but for less than 1000 board, the setup and labor
costs are SO much higher than material costs that no prototype house
offer cheaper materials.
When you order your $40 3x6 inch board from olimex, you're not REALLY
paying $26 per board, you're paying something like $20 for setup,
labor, and tooling, $4 for chemicals, inks, and tooling, and $2 for the
board material itself.  Reducing board material costs all the way to
$1.50 just isn't helpful to the end price, and requires the boardmaker
deal with additional details...

BillW

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2004\06\11@011230 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 04:27 PM 6/10/2004 -0700, you wrote:


>My impression is that you don't GET that sort of board as a
>'prototype.'

There are expensive proto houses that will produce single-sided boards
as for consumer products with V-groove, conductive printing, and all
the rest. They can cost rather more than double-sided prototypes from cheap
suppliers because they make it VERY close to the production boards.

>  You can start talking to providers of that sort for
>production runs, but for less than 1000 board, the setup and labor
>costs are SO much higher than material costs that no prototype house
>offer cheaper materials.

Typically on punched boards one free prototype is supplied... before
the pallet load is made..

>When you order your $40 3x6 inch board from olimex, you're not REALLY
>paying $26 per board, you're paying something like $20 for setup,
>labor, and tooling, $4 for chemicals, inks, and tooling, and $2 for the
>board material itself.  Reducing board material costs all the way to
>$1.50 just isn't helpful to the end price, and requires the boardmaker
>deal with additional details...

The barriers to entry on single-sided boards are lower. Many hobbyists and
small companies actually etch their own, you know (and deal one way
or another with the messiness and chemical disposal issues). We used to
have a supplier who did this as a sideline. Mail is cheap for PCBs (a
couple of dollars) and labor can be arbitraged. I would not expect a
supplier who can do two sided or multilayer boards necessarily to be
interested. Mostly, different factories are used for the two types of boards
in production.

I do recall seeing a web page for someone who charged so much per
square inch, aimed at hobbyists..

Best regards,

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