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2006\01\26@191051 by VULCAN20

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I am learning PIC programming.  Does anyone have any excess inventory of
PIC chips they might want to sell.

I want to build some things that use I2C or other methods of
communication between 2 PICs., PWM for some 12 V. motors,  R/C servo
control and ADC to start with.  I have a test board that can program and
test 8, 14, 18, 28 and 40 pin dip packages.    They have to be FLASH
type chips.  

I would like to buy in quantities of more then one chip to keep the cost
down on postage.

Lease contact off list.
Thank you very much
John

2006\01\26@192612 by Rolf

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VULCAN20 wrote:
> I am learning PIC programming.  Does anyone have any excess inventory of
> PIC chips they might want to sell.
>
> I want to build some things that use I2C or other methods of
> communication between 2 PICs., PWM for some 12 V. motors,  R/C servo
> control and ADC to start with.  I have a test board that can program and
> test 8, 14, 18, 28 and 40 pin dip packages.    They have to be FLASH
> type chips.  
>
> I would like to buy in quantities of more then one chip to keep the cost
> down on postage.
>
> Lease contact off list.
> Thank you very much
> John
>
>  
You have not yet seen sample.microchip.com.... free PICs and Free
postage. Can't get better than that

Rolf

2006\01\26@193112 by Bob Blick

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> I would like to buy in quantities of more then one chip to keep the cost
> down on postage.

So perhaps you should, at the very least, specify where in the world you
live, and why buying PICs from a mail-order house won't work?

Cheers,

Bob


2006\01\26@195218 by Mark Jeronimus

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>You have not yet seen sample.microchip.com.... free PICs and Free
>postage. Can't get better than that

Microchip doesn't sample to individuals anymore, only to companies. Only if
you are lucky enough to have regeistered before 2005 and registered with a
company they respect, then you can still sample.

Best regards,
Mark Jeronimus

2006\01\26@201624 by Hector Martin

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Mark Jeronimus wrote:
>>You have not yet seen sample.microchip.com.... free PICs and Free
>>postage. Can't get better than that
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> Microchip doesn't sample to individuals anymore, only to companies. Only if
> you are lucky enough to have regeistered before 2005 and registered with a
> company they respect, then you can still sample.

I registered sometime Q4 2005 and got samples...

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2006\01\26@203753 by Shawn Wilton

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Yeah, that's not at all true.  They just won't allow the use of free email
services because too many people are/were creating accounts and ordering
samples for the sake of reselling them on Ebay.  Ever wonder why there are
so many Ebay auctions selling only 3 chips at a time?

Just use your email address from your ISP and you should not have any
problems getting samples.  I should also mention that I think Microchip did
however cut off samples entirely to some countries.  But you can *always*
contact a local distributor to get samples.

On 1/26/06, Mark Jeronimus <.....zombie.piclistKILLspamspam@spam@gmail.com> wrote:
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2006\01\26@212957 by R. I. Nelson

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Bob Blick wrote:

>>I would like to buy in quantities of more then one chip to keep the cost
>>down on postage.
>>    
>>
>
>So perhaps you should, at the very least, specify where in the world you
>live, and why buying PICs from a mail-order house won't work?
>  
>

What does where I live have to do with it.

I just thought that some of the piclist people might have some extras
left over from a project, over ordered or something like that and would
like to turn them into money instead of dust collectors or taking up
space. Not that they take up that much space.

I have also heard that some people have alot of samples that they may
wish to get rid of.

Also most of the mail order houses tack on minimum order, handling fees,
etc.

The local sales rep for Microchip told me they are trying to cut down on
FREE samples to non bussiness people.



John



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2006\01\26@220505 by Bob Blick

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On 26 Jan 2006 at 20:29, R. I. Nelson wrote:
> >>I would like to buy in quantities of more then one chip to keep the cost
> >>down on postage.
> >
> >So perhaps you should, at the very least, specify where in the world you
> >live, and why buying PICs from a mail-order house won't work?
> >  
> What does where I live have to do with it.

John,

Shipping from Argentina to Romania, or Ohio to Ohio, which do you
think costs more, but you'd like to save postage. Just think about it
for a second or two.

Secondly, if you live in the US, order from Digikey and you get free
shipping with no handling charge on prepaid orders of $25 or more.
Hard to beat.

Let me put it this way - it's polite to give people enough information,
that way you don't waste their time.

In case you were wondering, Olin's taken the afternoon off, and I'm
writing in his place :)

Cheerful regards,

Bob

2006\01\27@035450 by Shawn Wilton

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> In case you were wondering, Olin's taken the afternoon off, and I'm
> writing in his place :)


You realize you've just decimated any karma you've built up over the years..

But it DID make me choke on my water.. :-)


Cheerful regards,
>
> Bob
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2006\01\27@041031 by Shawn Wilton

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Ebay, ebay, ebay.  But seriously, where *are* you located?  Doesn't make
much sense to ship to the other side of the world.

Do you have a standard email address from your ISP?  If so, you won't have
any issues getting samples from Microchip.  Besides, it's not like you
should really have use for more than a few uCs.  One man can only prototype
so fast, and if you get reasonably powerful chips, you could opt to reuse
them.


On 1/26/06, R. I. Nelson <.....rindesignsKILLspamspam.....charter.net> wrote:
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2006\01\27@070356 by olin piclist

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VULCAN20 wrote:
> I would like to buy in quantities of more then one chip to keep the cost
> down on postage.

http://buy.microchip.com has reasonable prices for even small quantities.

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2006\01\27@073129 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> http://buy.microchip.com has reasonable prices for even small
quantities.

but shipping is a bit high for international

Wouter van Ooijen

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2006\01\27@080624 by olin piclist

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Wouter van Ooijen wrote:
>> http://buy.microchip.com has reasonable prices for even small
>> quantities.
>
> but shipping is a bit high for international

Yes, I imagine that's true.  Since the OP refuses to say where he's located
for some silly reason, we don't know whether it's relevant, only that there
is no point spending time trying to help this guy.


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2006\01\27@113235 by Howard Winter

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Wouter,

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:33:29 +0100, Wouter van Ooijen wrote:

> > http://buy.microchip.com has reasonable prices for even small
> quantities.
>
> but shipping is a bit high for international

And annoyingly, they have a "Shipping reduced by 50%" splash on their web site - but when you go there it
doesn't include NL or UK.  Anyone in "Cypress" is doing well, though!  Hang on, that's a type of tree... do
you think they mean "Cyprus"?

If I remember rightly, the shipping cost for us is UK£12 (say US$21) plus VAT I think, so it makes any small
sized order ridiculously expensive.

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2006\01\27@120016 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> And annoyingly, they have a "Shipping reduced by 50%" splash
> on their web site - but when you go there it
> doesn't include NL or UK.  Anyone in "Cypress" is doing well,
> though!  Hang on, that's a type of tree... do
> you think they mean "Cyprus"?
>
> If I remember rightly, the shipping cost for us is UK£12 (say
> US$21) plus VAT I think, so it makes any small
> sized order ridiculously expensive.

IIRC the S/H cost has been E 25 (+VAT) for every order I placed. My
orders are in the E 500 ... E 2000 range, so I don't mind much, but they
definitely don't seem to want small orders. Which of course suits me
fine :)

What I like is that the S/H is E 25, no matter how many packes they
actually send, from different warehouses, and/or for backorders. And I
don't know how they do it, but I get a Dutch invoice with Dutch VAT, and
no hassle wth customs. Very convenient.

Wouter van Ooijen

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2006\01\27@132058 by Jan-Erik Soderholm

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Going more and more "off-pist", but...

Another source that I've fpund having good Microchip
prices in general, is Farnell. And they charges less in shipping.
Still, I think buy.mc.com was some cheaper anyway.
And, as Wouter pointed out, for, let's say 100+ of PICs,
the MC shipping charges are OK.

Jan-Erik.



2006\01\27@153558 by James Newton, Host

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Olin is again on moderation.

Don't like it? Tell me about it offlist. Or get of the list. Or become an
admin and replace me.

But don't EVER complain about anyone else's actions on the list.

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2006\01\27@213125 by John Samperi

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At 12:07 AM 28/01/2006, you wrote:
>Since the OP refuses to say where he's located
>for some silly reason,

Perhaps it's not a silly reason. Let's say for argument sake that he
lives in a country to which there is a technology embargo, therefore he
would not be able to get samples or buy chips! I have to sign a
declaration and it has to be renewed every year that I'm not allowed
to resell the goods I purchase from US or Canada to certain countries
and I guess everyone else is bound by similar conditions.

So if anyone sells "surplus" chips to this person, could find himself or
herself in breach of the agreement and M.I.B could be knocking on their
door in the middle of the night and they will never be seen again ;-)


Regards

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2006\01\27@215142 by Howard Winter

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On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:59:09 +1100, John Samperi wrote:

> At 12:07 AM 28/01/2006, you wrote:
> >Since the OP refuses to say where he's located
> >for some silly reason,
>
> Perhaps it's not a silly reason. Let's say for argument sake that he
> lives in a country to which there is a technology embargo, therefore he
> would not be able to get samples or buy chips! I have to sign a
> declaration and it has to be renewed every year that I'm not allowed
> to resell the goods I purchase from US or Canada to certain countries
> and I guess everyone else is bound by similar conditions.

Have PICs ever been subject to export restrictions?

> So if anyone sells "surplus" chips to this person, could find himself or
> herself in breach of the agreement and M.I.B could be knocking on their
> door in the middle of the night and they will never be seen again ;-)

And how is hiding where he's from is going to help?  If he's going to get the chips, he's going to have to say
where to send them at some point!

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2006\01\28@053759 by Shawn Wilton

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All excellent questions, and points.  However, would anyone mind if we
killed this thread?  It's not going anywhere and several people have already
been slapped by the hand of moderation.  Best if we just tuck this one under
the rug.


On 1/27/06, Howard Winter <@spam@HDRWKILLspamspamh2org.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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2006\01\28@100456 by Bill Kuncicky

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Olin Lathrop wrote:
>  >Since the OP refuses to say where he's located
>  >for some silly reason,

Maybe I am missing something here.  The OP used [BUY] to ask if anyone
might have some extra PIC chips they would be interested in selling.  He
also asked for replies off-list.   When someone asked him where he was
located (on-list) he asked why that mattered.   A reasonable reply would
be along the lines that it might matter what country he was in.  Instead
he got blasted.  By several people, that up until that time I had a high
opinion of.  If the intent was to drive away a beginner, I would say
that it probably succeeded.  But as a beginner myself, I do not see what
sin he committed.  Everyone knows that you can order PIC chips from
Digikey, or Mouser, or other places.  But if you are a beginner, and on
a low budget, you only want a few chips and whether they have been
previously used or not doesn't matter.  So to me, as a beginner on a low
budget, it makes perfect sense to ask whether or not someone on the
PIClist might have some lying around that they want to sell.

Anyway, the impression that I got out of it was a few of  the old-timers
acting like bullies toward a beginner.  Kind of sickening, in my opinion.

Bill

2006\01\28@114205 by Peter van Hoof

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Bill Kuncicky <KILLspamkuncickyKILLspamspamgmail.com> wrote:
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>Anyway, the impression that I got out of it was a few of  the old-timers
>acting like bullies toward a beginner.
[snip]

I tend more to agree with the old timers point of view BUT......
James Newton asked to refrain from comments about others on this list
and that goes for me as well as people who agree with James. If my
arguments go unheard so should yours.

Peter van Hoof

2006\01\28@122914 by Bill & Pookie

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Like a tree falling in the woods,  if an argument go unheard, does it make a
sound?

Pookie

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2006\01\28@213444 by James Newton, Host

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Its more like "if an argument happens off list, does it stink as bad?"

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2006\01\28@215202 by Rich Graziano

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Hi James:

I don't have any PIC Chips, but I have millions of components in stock and I
sell way below Digikey or other suppliers.  I can send you an inventory
list. If you are interested, contact me at RemoveMErgrazia1spamTakeThisOuTrochester.rr.com


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Subject: RE: [BUY] does any one have any extra PIC chips to sell!


> Its more like "if an argument happens off list, does it stink as bad?"
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