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'[BUY:] Any old Atmel/Ubicom SX programmers?'
2004\06\25@082929 by rrc124+

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I have played with PICs for a while, but my new project requires something much faster (Tetris for NTSC TV - yes, I know a bunch of people did it with PICs and 12/16/20Mhz crystals, but I want a lot of room to play with.. not squeezing lines of code in whereever i can..) like an SX or AVR... I'd like an SX cuz it's more PIC-like, but an AVR i can get free samples of, so go figure, I guess whatever anyone has lying around. I figure somewhere on this list is somebody with an old programmer who has since upgraded to a better one and wouldn't mind selling the other one? I'm just sending this out to see if anyone has one on the cheap.. Thankssssss.

~Rob

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2004\06\25@093518 by Russell McMahon

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> I figure somewhere on this list is somebody with an old programmer who has
since upgraded to a better one and wouldn't mind selling the other one? I'm
just sending this out to see if anyone has one on the cheap.. Thankssssss.


Of course, you could use an AVR and build a programmer using 5 pieces of
wire and a parallel port connector. Much cheaper than that would be very
hard to achieve :-)


       RM

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2004\06\25@094611 by rrc124+

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It was my understanding that the AT90S1200 and AT90S2313 (which are the ones I want to use) cannot be programmed using that straight parallel port connection... they needed something more. I could be wrong though.


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> I figure somewhere on this list is somebody with an old programmer who has
since upgraded to a better one and wouldn't mind selling the other one? I'm
just sending this out to see if anyone has one on the cheap.. Thankssssss.


Of course, you could use an AVR and build a programmer using 5 pieces of
wire and a parallel port connector. Much cheaper than that would be very
hard to achieve :-)


       RM

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2004\06\25@100920 by David VanHorn

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At 09:42 AM 6/25/2004 -0400, you wrote:

>It was my understanding that the AT90S1200 and AT90S2313 (which are the ones I want to use) cannot be programmed using that straight parallel port connection... they needed something more. I could be wrong though.

http://www.qsl.net/ba1fb/

This one works quite nicely.

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2004\06\25@105800 by Mark Jordan

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On 25 Jun 2004 at 9:42, rrc124+@PITT.EDU wrote:

> It was my understanding that the AT90S1200 and AT90S2313 (which are the ones
> I want to use) cannot be programmed using that straight parallel port
> connection... they needed something more. I could be wrong though.
>

       I would suggest you begin with the ATMEGA8. It has more RAM, I/O
and speed. And you can use the straight parallel port connection.
       As a bonus, it has a 2 clock cycle 8x8 multiplier! It means you
can do an 8x8bit product in 125nS running at 16MHz!
       It costs a little more than the AT90S2313.

       Mark Jordan

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2004\06\25@105801 by Mark Jordan

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On 25 Jun 2004 at 9:08, David VanHorn wrote:

> At 09:42 AM 6/25/2004 -0400, you wrote:
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> >It was my understanding that the AT90S1200 and AT90S2313 (which are the ones I want to use) cannot be programmed using that straight parallel port connection... they needed something more. I could be wrong though.
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> http://www.qsl.net/ba1fb/
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> This one works quite nicely.
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       And in case you want to build more complicated ones:

       http://elm-chan.org/works/avrx/report_e.html

       Mark Jordan

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2004\06\25@111617 by David VanHorn

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>        I would suggest you begin with the ATMEGA8. It has more RAM, I/O
>and speed. And you can use the straight parallel port connection.
>        As a bonus, it has a 2 clock cycle 8x8 multiplier! It means you
>can do an 8x8bit product in 125nS running at 16MHz!
>        It costs a little more than the AT90S2313.

Internal RC oscillator is nice too.

I did a printer controller with this chip, running a 4" thermal printhead at full rated speed. The burn compensation makes extensive use of the FMULT instruction, a fractional multiply. I adjust burn pulse width dependent on battery voltage, head temperature, print speed (cold paper arriving), pixel density (compensating for wiring I^2R loss) and some other factors.

The SPI port shoves out pixels to the head at 4mbits, while I control five burn pulse outputs, and sequence a stepper through accel and decel, depending on how much data I have left to print.

I ran into an unanticipated problem there, as the M8 was able to print the data much faster than the 1.7 GHz laptop was able to deliver it.  This caused interesting problems until I got the stepper speed throttling handled correctly.  The first cut did smooth accel, then stopped dead when I ran out of data, which sounded much worse in real life, than I expected. The final cut adjusts it's speed depending on how many lines are in the buffer, and wether that quantity is stable, rising, or falling.  Don't think "inches per second", think "Feet per second".
It's fast enough to make you think that the paper must have been pre-printed.

The spooky thing was looking at it blowing printed paper out, knowing that except for the stepper drive chip, the whole thing was running on one chip, with no external ram, buffers, latches, not even a crystal.  Another processor interfaces to the PC, and rasterizes the data, then sends that to my M8, through an 8 bit interface we invented, but even that is on chip in the M8.

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2004\06\25@172635 by James Newton, Host

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2004\06\25@205419 by David P Harris

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Wow.. is this an available product?... how about a little video of it?
David


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2004\06\25@213157 by David VanHorn

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At 05:52 PM 6/25/2004 -0700, David P Harris wrote:

>Wow.. is this an available product?... how about a little video of it?
>David


The one I spoke of is an embeddable print engine that we did at http://www.mobilecommand.net  I don't have any video of it.

I'm sure it can be made available, one way or the other.
MCS owns that codeset, but I'm not prohibited from writing another.

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