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'[ADMIN] [READ THIS] Last try for topics'
2000\05\25@141426 by jamesnewton

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Ok, last time, then we just dump it...

SUBJECT LINES IN POSTS TO THE PICLIST NEED TO START WITH ONE OF:

[PIC]:
[EE]:
[OT]:
[AD]:

If you don't use one of these, other people will not see your posts. People
who are interested only in the PIC itself listen to [PIC], people who are
also interested in general engineering issues also listen to [EE] and people
who are also interested in anything PICListers have to say also listen to
[OT]. People who are interested in buying or selling also listen to [AD].
Please pick one that matches the subject of your post and type it at the
start of the subject line (don't forget the colon) and then continue.

The point of this is that it will reduce the likelihood of people posting
comments about the space program with [PIC]: at the start of the subject
line. Then you can tell the list server to only send [PIC]: topics. Also
reduces the workload for the VOLUNTEER, UNPAID, ADMINS (HINT, HINT) <GLARE>

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2000\05\25@150701 by Quentin

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I still think you are going to have a tough time convincing people to
post a PIC topic to a PIC list with a [PIC] header. Drop that one and
police the people who post a non PIC message to the list rather.

Quentin

2000\05\25@151530 by jamesnewton

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It would remove the reminder of having typed [PIC]: which many people need
to be able to realize "hey, this really isn't about PICs, is it?"

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Subject: Re: [ADMIN] [READ THIS] Last try for topics


I still think you are going to have a tough time convincing people to
post a PIC topic to a PIC list with a [PIC] header. Drop that one and
police the people who post a non PIC message to the list rather.

Quentin

2000\05\25@155116 by jamesnewton

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And this may have been a bad idea...

...so if it doesn't work out, we will dump it.

I'm just getting very tired of constantly reminding people to mark off topic
posts.

Because, you see, the way it has ALWAYS been involves someone manually
looking at each post (that is me) and then saying (privately, to the poster)
"Hey, what the hell does that have to do with PICs and why are you wasting
everyone's time" and then they say "Oh, right, sorry I forgot" and hopefully
they remember for a week or two until they need to post another question
about Linux (or pick a non-PIC subject) again.

The DIFFERENT way, if they post with out thinking, they will get ONE reply
from the autoresponder saying "Um, didn't you want to post on a given
topic?"

I just wish there was a way to allow people to talk about whatever with the
good and interesting people of the list without them constantly
(accidentally, or whatever) stepping on the need of others to limit their
reading to posts that are actually about PICs.

Forcing everyone to type [PIC]: at the start of the subject line ensures
that they know they are about to write something directly related to the
PIC, while still allowing them to type [OT]: and then talk about UFO's.

<WHINE>But if its too much, then its too much.... 5 little character
characters they can't type</WHINE>

<GRIN>

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2000\05\25@155309 by jamesnewton
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Your point is well taken, but if people are "allowed" to post with out a
topic there are two problems....

1) newbies, etc.. who forget that they need to assign a topic will not get
thier post seen by the PIC only people. They will go away thinking no-one
wanted or could help them. I plan to start an autoresponder that reminds
people to TAG subject lines when they post without one.

2) if a bunch of people are posting interesting things to the non-topic
area, people who want to hear that will start wondering what they are
missing and turn it back on. "Oh, we just answered that on the non-topic
channel, don't you subscribe to that?"

But if the way we are talking about now, doesn't work out, I'll be happy to
try something else.

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2000\05\26@191410 by Russell McMahon

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Can you make the autoresponder send back an appropriate response to anything
that doesn't have a standard [xxx] in the header while still letting it
through, at least for a trial period.?

Waddabout [ADMIN]???
I assumed AD was ADvertisement.

What about [RELIGION] :-) :-) :-) :-)  ?

I've been skimming threads and ignoring much stuff lately - too busy (or I
should be) so I hadn't really appreciated that this was being tried - I had
noticed especially [EE] and wondered why it was being done even though I
realsied what was meant. Shows you need to bring it to people's attention at
least a little forcibly.




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2000\05\26@191414 by Russell McMahon

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Can you make the autoresponder send back an appropriate response to anything
that doesn't have a standard [xxx] in the header while still letting it
through, at least for a trial period.?

Waddabout [ADMIN]???
I assumed AD was ADvertisement.

What about [RELIGION] :-) :-) :-) :-)  ?



     Russell McMahon
_____________________________

From other worlds - http://www.easttimor.com
                               http://www.sudan.com

What can one man* do?
Help the hungry at no cost to yourself!
at  http://www.thehungersite.com/

(* - or woman, child or internet enabled intelligent entity :-))


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2000\05\27@033932 by Mark Willis

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Russell McMahon wrote:
> Can you make the autoresponder send back an appropriate response to anything
> that doesn't have a standard [xxx] in the header while still letting it
> through, at least for a trial period.?

We're talking still.  I think we'll be posting about this shortly, I've
been gone all day & am catching up on e-mail <G>

> Waddabout [ADMIN]???
> I assumed AD was ADvertisement.

We're trying to train him <G>  We may use [META]: for discussions about
the list (including Admin stuff), there's another tag that we Admins can
use that we could also switch to instead of [Admin] anyways, we'll
figure out a good answer.

> What about [RELIGION] :-) :-) :-) :-)  ?

That one'll get ya shot at, dunno if James will miss or not.  We've had
enough religious strife here, probably...

 Mark

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2000\05\27@120424 by Dan Michaels

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Russell McMahon wrote:
>Can you make the autoresponder send back an appropriate response to anything
>that doesn't have a standard [xxx] in the header while still letting it
>through, at least for a trial period.?
>
>Waddabout [ADMIN]???
>I assumed AD was ADvertisement.
>
>What about [RELIGION] :-) :-) :-) :-)  ?
>
.........

[RELIGION] definitely [NO!!!!] - not tekkie.

[ECHELON] maybe - helps the gov't boys more easily find threads
that may be subversive.

How about [NEWTON] - just kidding <:-)))).

2000\05\28@071741 by Alan B Pearce

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>How about [NEWTON] - just kidding <:-)))).

Well you could use this to signify the admin thread <:-)))).

2000\05\28@152734 by Mark Willis

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[JORY] would object =)

 Mark

Alan B Pearce wrote:
> >How about [NEWTON] - just kidding <:-)))).
>
> Well you could use this to signify the admin thread <:-)))).

2000\05\31@112627 by jamesnewton

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That is what I had intended as a permanent solution. Whether non tagged
messages are sent to members is up to each member, rather than to me or the
autoresponder. If you know what you are doing and you remove your
subscription to the OTHER: topic, you will no longer see non tagged
messages.

[ADMIN] will be sent to topic ALL: which is a special tag that sends the
message to all subscribers no matter what.

[RELIGION] could possibly be set up under [OT]: Lets get this working and
then talk again about it.

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