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'[AD] microOBD 200 article contest -- win $3k'
2010\07\13@223329 by Vitaliy

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microOBD 200 is a small DIP-24 module that can be used to connect to the
on-board diagnostics system of any modern vehicle.

http://www.microobd.com

Our company is offering you a chance to become familiar with OBD, achieve
fame and glory, and win up to USD3000.

The rules are simple: all you need to do, is write an article about a
project that uses the microOBD 200, and get it published in a major
electronics or hobby magazine[1]. The project can be any device that gets
information from the vehicle: scan tool, digital gauge, data logger, trip
computer, tire pressure monitor, black box, cell phone disabler, remote
vehicle health monitor, or anything else your creative mind can come up
with.

The top prize ($3000) will go to the first person who gets the article
published. The breakdown is as follows:

1st:    $3000
2nd:   $2000
3rd, 4th, etc:    $1000

To qualify, you would need to email us a scanned copy or a digital photo of
the actual article. The order will be determined based on the timestamp of
the email message.

You will retain all the rights to your project, and keep the honorarium.

You can find the documentation and reference schematics on the product's
page. The module is currently on backorder, we expect to receive the next
batch within the next 2-3 weeks. We also designed a development board for
it, if you think you may need one please email me off-list
(spam_OUTvitaliyTakeThisOuTspamscantool.net) so we know approximately how many PCBs to order.

Your thoughts and questions are welcome.

Best regards,

Vitaliy Maksimov
ScanTool.net LLC




[1] A "major electronics or hobby magazine" is any of the following
publications:

   CircuitCellar
   Elektor
   EPE
   Make
   Nuts and Volts
   Silicon Chip

Other publications with a significant circulation will be considered, but
please check with us first.

2010\07\14@145452 by Vitaliy

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Should I take the silence to mean there is no interest?


2010\07\14@150533 by Joshua Shriver

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Interesting been wanting to make a data logger for my car but not a
writer. Does look like a nice offer though.



On Jul 14, 2010, at 2:53 PM, "Vitaliy" <.....piclistKILLspamspam@spam@maksimov.org> wrote:

> Should I take the silence to mean there is no interest?
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2010\07\14@151052 by Tamas Rudnai

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People are busy with writing the article... :-)

Do you have a special evaluation kit for this contests? How much is that?
What is the time frame?

Tamas


On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Vitaliy <piclistspamKILLspammaksimov.org> wrote:

> Should I take the silence to mean there is no interest?
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2010\07\14@153253 by Olin Lathrop
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Vitaliy wrote:
> Should I take the silence to mean there is no interest?

Or people haven't digested it yet (geesh, it's only been a day or so, have
some patience), or they are trying to figure out how to juggle this with
existing commitments, or they are trying to come up with a project idea, or
they are intimidated by writing a article, or yes, they have no iterest.

I can only tell you for sure why I'm not interested.  I have done projects
and have written articles, so I've got a reasonable idea what this will
take.  I know I would be paid very poorly at $3000 for this job, so it would
have be something I do for fun.  However, I've already got a plenty long
list of those kinds of projects, so I'm going to pick stuff I'm really
interested in for my "free" time, and I don't currently have a high interest
in OBD2.  Or to answer in the form of a old joke, "I can't afford to do it,
I'm too expensive".


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2010\07\14@162253 by Vitaliy

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Olin Lathrop wrote:
>> Should I take the silence to mean there is no interest?
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> Or people haven't digested it yet (geesh, it's only been a day or so, have
> some patience),

I'm working on it. :) Thank you everyone who replied so far, at least I know
the message made it to the list.


> or they are trying to figure out how to juggle this with
> existing commitments, or they are trying to come up with a project idea,

I hope you're right on this one. :)


> or they are intimidated by writing a article,

Good point. I would be happy to help proofread and edit the drafts.


> or yes, they have no iterest.

How can someone not have an interest in the wonderful and exciting field of
on-board diagnostics? :-O


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Fair comment, but as far as I can tell most articles in CircuitCellar are
written by people who do it for fun or name recognition. The $3k is just an
added incentive, or a means of justifying working on the project to a
significant other.

Vitaliy

2010\07\14@162406 by Vitaliy

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Joshua Shriver wrote:
> Interesting been wanting to make a data logger for my car but not a
> writer. Does look like a nice offer though.

Would you do it if someone helped you write it?

Vitaliy

2010\07\14@163137 by Vitaliy

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Tamas Rudnai wrote:
> People are busy with writing the article... :-)

I sure hope so!


> Do you have a special evaluation kit for this contests? How much is that?
> What is the time frame?

I put a picture of the development board here:

http://maksimov.org/piclist/microobd_200/

Don't have a price yet, I estimate our cost to be around $50-60. If a lot of
people were interested, we could build them for a small fraction of that.
:-)

Vitaliy

2010\07\14@163858 by Mark Rages

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On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Vitaliy <.....piclistKILLspamspam.....maksimov.org> wrote:
> Should I take the silence to mean there is no interest?
>

I'm not sure how the magazines feel about their authors getting
kickbacks from component manufacturers.

Regards,
Mark
markrages@gmail
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Mark Rages, Engineer
Midwest Telecine LLC
EraseMEmarkragesspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTmidwesttelecine.com

2010\07\14@164422 by Olin Lathrop

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Mark Rages wrote:
> I'm not sure how the magazines feel about their authors getting
> kickbacks from component manufacturers.

As long as it's a good article that stands on its own, I think most wouldn't
care.  Of course I wouldn't go out of my way to point it out to them either.
At least for Circuit Cellar, it's too late for that though.


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2010\07\14@165740 by Marcel Duchamp

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On 7/14/2010 1:38 PM, Mark Rages wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Vitaliy<piclistspamspam_OUTmaksimov.org>  wrote:
>> Should I take the silence to mean there is no interest?
>>
>
> I'm not sure how the magazines feel about their authors getting
> kickbacks from component manufacturers.
>
> Regards,
> Mark
> markrages@gmail

In my experience, *most* tech magazine articles are written by someone
with a vested interest in the topic.

2010\07\14@170007 by Vitaliy

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Olin Lathrop wrote:
> Mark Rages wrote:
>> I'm not sure how the magazines feel about their authors getting
>> kickbacks from component manufacturers.
>
> As long as it's a good article that stands on its own, I think most
> wouldn't
> care.  Of course I wouldn't go out of my way to point it out to them
> either.
> At least for Circuit Cellar, it's too late for that though.

LOL, I did consider the fact that Dave is a regular poster. :-) However, I
arrived at the same conclusion as Olin: I figured that they wouldn't mind.
It's a triple win: the magazine gets an interesting article, we get product
exposure, and authors get bragging rights & prize money. Maybe even a
quadruple win, if you include the readers of CircuitCellar.

I think that forbidding this kind of arrangement would be
counter-productive: it would simply drive it underground, and hurt the
companies that play by the rules.

Vitaliy

2010\07\14@185601 by Dave Tweed

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Vitaliy wrote:
> Olin Lathrop wrote:
> > Mark Rages wrote:
> > > I'm not sure how the magazines feel about their authors getting
> > > kickbacks from component manufacturers.
> >
> > As long as it's a good article that stands on its own, I think most
> > wouldn't care. Of course I wouldn't go out of my way to point it out
> > to them either.
> > At least for Circuit Cellar, it's too late for that though.
>
> LOL, I did consider the fact that Dave is a regular poster. :-) However,
> I arrived at the same conclusion as Olin: I figured that they wouldn't
> mind. It's a triple win: the magazine gets an interesting article, we get
> product exposure, and authors get bragging rights & prize money. Maybe
> even a quadruple win, if you include the readers of CircuitCellar.
>
> I think that forbidding this kind of arrangement would be
> counter-productive: it would simply drive it underground, and hurt the
> companies that play by the rules.

The first thing that passed through my mind when I saw Vitaliy's original
post was, "Should this be a real Circuit Cellar Design Contest?" But then
I figured that that would be a lot more than his company would want to
commit to.

No, Circuit Cellar would not have a problem with this arrangement; like
Olin said, the article has to stand on its own technical merit anyway.
I might give it a little extra scrutiny, given that I know that this is
going on behind the scenes, but I don't think that would have a major
influence on the final decision.

-- Dave Tweed
  Circuit Cellar project editor

2010\07\14@192740 by Vitaliy

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Dave Tweed wrote:
> The first thing that passed through my mind when I saw Vitaliy's original
> post was, "Should this be a real Circuit Cellar Design Contest?" But then
> I figured that that would be a lot more than his company would want to
> commit to.

Thank you for your reply. We considered sponsoring an official contest, but
we really can't afford it right now. Unless we could get a company like
Parallax or Sparkfun to co-sponsor.


> No, Circuit Cellar would not have a problem with this arrangement; like
> Olin said, the article has to stand on its own technical merit anyway.
> I might give it a little extra scrutiny, given that I know that this is
> going on behind the scenes, but I don't think that would have a major
> influence on the final decision.

Thank you for the clarification.

Vitaliy

2010\07\19@230729 by jim

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Vitaliy,

What is the status of the microOBD 200 article contest?  Have the boards
been ordered yet?
How do I go about getting one of the chips to start development with?
Please advise.

Thanks and Regards,

Jim

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2010\07\20@183849 by Vitaliy

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jim wrote:
> What is the status of the microOBD 200 article contest?  Have the boards
> been ordered yet?

We're making a few tweaks to the dev board, hope to have the PCBs the first
week of August.


> How do I go about getting one of the chips to start development with?
> Please advise.

You can order one here:

http://www.scantool.net/microobd-200.html

There is a lead time right now, because we keep running into all sorts of
delays (latest one, Customs on the other end put a hold on the tester) but
orders will be processed in the order they are received. You can cancel the
order at any time, if you change your mind.

Vitaliy

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