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2001\03\15@205240 by Sean H. Breheny

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Hi all,

This isn't really an ad, but I tagged it as that because it does have to do
with selling stuff.

For a while, I've had the idea to write a tutorial on wireless
communication for microcontrollers, for the beginner to intermediate user.
Since I think that it is unlikely that I could put the time and effort into
making this a real book, I have been thinking of possibly doing it as a
web-based tutorial which was freely available. I was also considering
offering kits of the examples from the tutorial.

The tutorial would start out with very basic theory of radio communication
and go up through low to mid data rate digital communications. It would
focus on the practical, but would also give the theory behind most of what
was presented. It would also include some optical communications, low-power
comms, and a smattering of some of the neat tips and tricks I've learned
from watching this list for about 4 years.

What do you think? How much interest is there in this? Would anyone buy the
kits? (I'm not looking to make a living from this, but I would like to do a
little more than break even so that I can justify the time I'd need to put
into writing the tutorial and testing out the examples).

Thanks,

Sean

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2001\03\15@223717 by Jim Paul

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Sean,

I'm an amateur radio operator, among other things, and I for one
would like to see the tutorial.  As a matter of fact, I might even be
able to help.  And if the kits were reasonably priced, I would buy
them just so I could follow the tutorial.  Let me know what comes
of this idea.

                                                           Regards,

                                                      Jim   KA9QHR

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2001\03\15@232608 by Ron Wilder

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I'd be interested.  I just bought the tranceiver dev kit from parallax (uses
the link modules), but would love to save some $$$ if it's easy.  I've been a
licensed ham (K6RON) for 29 yrs but haven't gotten too much into the RF stuff.
The kit is at 433 Mhz.
What's your timeframe?
Ron

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2001\03\15@235800 by Randy Glenn

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I'd pay a reasonable amount of money for this. I've been toying with
the idea of a solar-powered radio webserver since reading that page
about the potato-powered one, and such a tutorial would help.

- -Randy Glenn

This coming from the guy with a system tray 10 icons wide... by 2
tall... yes, I am insane ;)
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2001\03\16@091316 by Mark Skeels

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Hi, Sean.

I for one would be very interested in this. I might also buy a kit,
depending on price/functionality. I have little/no background in radio and I
have often thought it would be neat to create remote controls and wireless
data links for stuff around the house. (Only a geek would do this...) I
always learn best by doing.

Mark

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2001\03\16@101703 by Mike Mansheim

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I would be interested - it's a subject I'd like to learn about.  After
reading your explanation of IIR filtering, I'm certain you would do a
good job of writing it.  And, even though I'm a cheapskate of immense
proportions, I would buy a kit if it was a convenient "one stop" way to
get all the parts to start.
One question:  does this subject include the technology used in, for
example, TV remotes, or only radio based wireless communications?
(you mentioned "optical" - I'm not sure what that means in this
context - shows the depth of my non-understanding of this subject)

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2001\03\16@140209 by Joan Ilari

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>  What do you think?

Very interesting

>  How much interest is there in this?

See above

>  Would anyone buy the kits?

Depending on the price, yes

Joan

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2001\03\16@141045 by Simon Ethier

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Hey, what kit ?  we wanna know !


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2001\03\16@141505 by Bruce Smith

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Where can we get this kit ?
};-D

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2001\03\16@173425 by Sean H. Breheny

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Hi all,

Thanks for the responses, it looks like there may be some interest :-)

I have a tentative table of contents and a lot of ideas for the tutorial
and kits, but they are not finished yet. I was planning on really starting
work on this after I finished my BSEE degree requirements, in early May. My
idea was to do this as a summer project, so if I do it, it should be
completed by around August, perhaps earlier if I shorten the tutorial or do
it in sections, in which case I could release parts of it at a time.

For those who haven't followed this from the beginning, the idea is that I
would write a fairly extensive free web-based tutorial on simple wireless
communications for microcontrollers, including RF and IR links. It would be
organized like a book, and would cover material from basic radio
communications theory up through low to mid data rate digital
communications, in a mainly practical way but with enough theory to
understand what is going on.

It would have several design examples with code and schematics, and I would
sell kits including all the necessary parts and a PCB for each design example.

I'm open to any suggestions (such as the one to include info on IR TV
remotes), and I'll let you all know as soon as I decide if I am going to do
this.

Thanks,

Sean



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2001\03\17@054825 by Alan B. Pearce

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>I'm open to any suggestions (such as the one to include info on IR TV
?remotes), and I'll let you all know as soon as I decide if I am going to do
>this.

This can probably be satisfied with links to existing sites which already exist
carrying a lot of IR remote specific info.

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2001\03\18@153934 by Jagath Ekanayake

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I am interested in too ...

jagath

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Hi all,

This isn't really an ad, but I tagged it as that because it does have to do
with selling stuff.

For a while, I've had the idea to write a tutorial on wireless
communication for microcontrollers, for the beginner to intermediate user.
Since I think that it is unlikely that I could put the time and effort into
making this a real book, I have been thinking of possibly doing it as a
web-based tutorial which was freely available. I was also considering
offering kits of the examples from the tutorial.

The tutorial would start out with very basic theory of radio communication
and go up through low to mid data rate digital communications. It would
focus on the practical, but would also give the theory behind most of what
was presented. It would also include some optical communications, low-power
comms, and a smattering of some of the neat tips and tricks I've learned
from watching this list for about 4 years.

What do you think? How much interest is there in this? Would anyone buy the
kits? (I'm not looking to make a living from this, but I would like to do a
little more than break even so that I can justify the time I'd need to put
into writing the tutorial and testing out the examples).

Thanks,

Sean

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2001\03\18@193540 by shane

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Yes, this looks like it would be extremely interesting.  I would definitey encourage you to write this :)

As an aside, Nordic offer a bi-directional radio chip.

433Mhz, 20kbps, bi-directional, no manchester encoding required (just r/w standard RS232 from a shift register), selectable for 2
channel, 4-wire interface, in a so-20 package, with 8 external components needed.  Needs 4Mhz crystal, a few inductors and a few
capacitors. Works a treat. They supply gerber designs, and the chips are around $US3.50 ea.  See http://www.nvlsi.no/thenRF0433.htm.

Cheers,
Shane.

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2001\03\19@080249 by iso-8859-1?Q?Sari=F1ana?=

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>I have a tentative table of contents and a lot of ideas for the tutorial
>and kits, but they are not finished yet.

hi,

Can you can send us your tentative table of contents ? I'm sure you'll get
a lot of useful suggestions from the PIC'ers in order to sketch the whole
the project.

cheers and that's a really good idea.

Aaron

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2001\03\23@205158 by patmurphy

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Hi Shane,
those Nordic chips look interesting, both in features and
in price. Can you tell me where I can order them from?

TIA,

Patrick Murphy
James Valley Electronics
Phone (204) 353-4353

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