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'[AD]: Need a VB RS232 programmer urgently'
2001\05\21@121739 by jamesnewton

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Ok... This has now reached emergency levels! I can't believe that there
are no PICListers with VB / RS-232 experience who want to make some
extra cash in the San Diego north or L.A. south area.

I've tried local VB groups (no embedded or RS-232), calling friends,
etc...

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

James Newton (PICList Admin #3)
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James Newton wrote on 01-5-16 20:30:

The main developer got called away to Korea and we need a VB GUI, RS232,
"gather and present the data", programmer to slam out some quick code to
talk to a logger and present the data then save it to a data file or so.
Take over part written code or re-write. No DSP. Weird hours ok. Needs
to be in the San Diego (North is best) area. Pretty good quick money.
I've got the logger done but there may be some debugging so you would
have to work with me some... <EVIL GRIN> Timeline is starting middle of
next week and delivering no later than June 1. Should be between 16 and
40 hours total work. We need to know when you will be available by
tomorrow so we can plan the work schedule.

James Newton
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2001\05\21@134809 by Chris Carr

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This is the third attempt. With any luck I will have got the "To" field and
the
Subject Line correct. Should I be wasting all this bandwidth on a very poor
attempt at a joke.

That was a rhetorical question.

Regards Chris
I will now crawl back under my stone and stop annoying everyone.

> Didn't get the "To" field correctly filled out the first time, sorry
James.
>
>
> > Could they be all off line due to a lack of electricity ?
> >
> > 8-)
> > Chris
> >
> > > Ok... This has now reached emergency levels! I can't believe that
there
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RS232,
> > > "gather and present the data", programmer to slam out some quick code
to
> > > talk to a logger and present the data then save it to a data file or
so.
> > > Take over part written code or re-write. No DSP. Weird hours ok. Needs
> > > to be in the San Diego (North is best) area. Pretty good quick money.
> > > I've got the logger done but there may be some debugging so you would
> > > have to work with me some... <EVIL GRIN> Timeline is starting middle
of
> > > next week and delivering no later than June 1. Should be between 16
and
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2001\05\21@141643 by Sam Linder

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James:
This email only now just showed up on my system. Your original posts did not
come through on the PIC List. Perhaps they didn't make to anyone else
either?

I do have some experience in the area you mention although I don't know if
I'd have time - already working 50 - 60 hour weeks. If you want to pursue an
offline conversation, I can be reached at (714) 236-8979 x1186.
       Sam....

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2001\05\22@091724 by Olin Lathrop

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> Ok... This has now reached emergency levels! I can't believe that there
> are no PICListers with VB / RS-232 experience who want to make some
> extra cash in the San Diego north or L.A. south area.

James, I think you'll find that embedded people don't do VB, and VB types
will run away screaming at the slightest smell of hardware.

VB may be useful for quick prototyping of GUIs, but I don't consider it a
serious tool for doing real work.  I often do host side code to support an
embedded project.  Most of the time the customer doesn't care how it's done
as long as it works.  In that case I use code ultimately compiled by MSVC.
If the customer insists on a VB app I tell them to get someone else.


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Olin Lathrop, embedded systems consultant in Littleton Massachusetts
(978) 742-9014, TakeThisOuTolinEraseMEspamspam_OUTembedinc.com, http://www.embedinc.com

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2001\05\22@095325 by Kevin Blain
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At some point earlier on today, Olin said:

> > Ok... This has now reached emergency levels! I can't believe that there
> > are no PICListers with VB / RS-232 experience who want to make some
> > extra cash in the San Diego north or L.A. south area.

I must be the exception to that rule then. However, Guildford, UK is a long
walk from San Diego.

Regards, Kevin

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2001\05\22@100228 by rwyoung

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>Ok... This has now reached emergency levels! I can't believe that there
>are no PICListers with VB / RS-232 experience who want to make some
>extra cash in the San Diego north or L.A. south area.
>
>I must be the exception to that rule then. However, Guildford, UK is a long
>walk from San Diego.
>
>Regards, Kevin

I can do this too.  But I'm not in San Diego or L.A. either.  How about
Kansas? (Where seldom is heard, a discouraging word, for what can an
antelope say...)

Robert Young
YR Consulting  785-842-6211 v/f
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2001\05\22@101901 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Ok... This has now reached emergency levels! I can't believe that there
>are no PICListers with VB / RS-232 experience who want to make some
>extra cash in the San Diego north or L.A. south area.
>
>I must be the exception to that rule then. However, Guildford, UK is a long
>walk from San Diego.
>
>Regards, Kevin

Yeah so is Didcot, UK, and I was in Palo Alto just a couple of weeks ago
too.

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2001\05\22@123921 by jamesnewton

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Totally agree... but this client...

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2001\05\22@165620 by Patrik Husfloen

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I'm another exception to your rule.


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Subject: Re: [AD]: Need a VB RS232 programmer urgently


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2001\05\22@184021 by Dave King

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I used to do that with quickbasic and 8051's. Is the mentioning
of quickbasic showing my antiquity ??;-].

At 10:56 PM 5/22/01 +0200, you wrote:
>I'm another exception to your rule.
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2001\05\22@185049 by ron

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I agree with Patrick on this one.  Each environment and language has it's value!
Although I very much dislike many MS products, I find VB to be very useful at
times.  Much easier to code than VC.  Nothing against 'C', but MSVC has always
been more complicated to use than VB, for me anyway.  Then, again, I haven't
spent months trying to learn its various quirks.  PIC C is more my speed now.
But PicBasic Pro has worked out well for prototyping some of my PIC hardware...

We have lot's of use for quickly prototyped interfaces to PIC projects!  VB works
fine for this.  In fact, I have to code up a VB app this week which sends
commands to a new PIC command interpreter I need to test!  It's got to be done by
Thursday evening.  I know it would take me longer than a couple of days using
'C'.
Ron

Patrik Husfloen wrote:

> I'm another exception to your rule.
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2001\05\22@231548 by michael brown

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Subject: Re: [AD]: Need a VB RS232 programmer urgently


> I agree with Patrick on this one.  Each environment and language has it's
value!
> Although I very much dislike many MS products, I find VB to be very useful
at
> times.  Much easier to code than VC.  Nothing against 'C', but MSVC has
always
> been more complicated to use than VB, for me anyway.

That's because mickysoft didn't invent VB they just bought it and messed it
up. (sorta like Front Page)

> Then, again, I haven't
> spent months trying to learn its various quirks.

Only months?  You must be a fast learner.

> PIC C is more my speed now.
> But PicBasic Pro has worked out well for prototyping some of my PIC
hardware...
>
> We have lot's of use for quickly prototyped interfaces to PIC projects!
VB works
> fine for this.  In fact, I have to code up a VB app this week which sends
> commands to a new PIC command interpreter I need to test!  It's got to be
done by
> Thursday evening.  I know it would take me longer than a couple of days
using
> 'C'.

I totaly agree.  VB is plenty good (professional) enough for most simple
GUI's.  And you don't even have to spend countless hours trying to
understand why one line of code won't work.

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there
> > > > are no PICListers with VB / RS-232 experience who want to make some
> > > > extra cash in the San Diego north or L.A. south area.
> > >
> > > James, I think you'll find that embedded people don't do VB, and VB
types
> > > will run away screaming at the slightest smell of hardware.
> > >
> > > VB may be useful for quick prototyping of GUIs, but I don't consider
it a
> > > serious tool for doing real work.  I often do host side code to
support an
> > > embedded project.  Most of the time the customer doesn't care how it's
done
> > > as long as it works.  In that case I use code ultimately compiled by
MSVC.
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2001\05\23@043201 by Alan B. Pearce

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>That's because mickysoft didn't invent VB they just bought it and messed it
>up. (sorta like Front Page)

Are you sure about that? My experience with it is that it shows its roots
all the way from GWBasic which was developed from the MS 8080 basic. The
original IBM basic in ROM was quite obviously passed through an 8080 to 8086
translator that Intel had available, and MS have developed from there
through GWBasic, QuickBasic and QBasic to VB. Really the only differences
between Basic and VB is the windows interface.

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2001\05\23@071947 by michael brown

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Subject: Re: [AD]: Need a VB RS232 programmer urgently


> >That's because mickysoft didn't invent VB they just bought it and messed
it
> >up. (sorta like Front Page)
>
> Are you sure about that? My experience with it is that it shows its roots
> all the way from GWBasic which was developed from the MS 8080 basic. The
> original IBM basic in ROM was quite obviously passed through an 8080 to
8086
> translator that Intel had available, and MS have developed from there
> through GWBasic, QuickBasic and QBasic to VB. Really the only differences
> between Basic and VB is the windows interface.

Check this out:

http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/dec/02rajeev.htm

· MS DOS -- purchased QDOS (Quick and Dirty OS) from the Seattle Computer
Company for a mere $ 50,000.

· Internet Explorer -- based on code licensed from Spyglass, Inc.

· Flight Simulator -- purchased from the Bruce Artwick Organization.

· Powerpoint -- purchased from Forethought, Inc.

· FrontPage -- purchased from Vermeer Technologies.

· FoxPro -- part of Fox Software which was bought out by Microsoft.

· HotMail -- company purchased by Microsoft.

· OLE -- Microsoft settled a patent infringement suit with Wang Labs.

· SQL Server -- based on code purchased from Sybase.

· Visual Basic -- based on code purchased from Cooper Software.

· Visual C++ -- based on the purchased Lattice C compiler.

· Windows -- portions of the interface licensed from Apple Computer;
multitasking technologies were from a company, Dynamical Systems, bought by
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